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Wishing you had never been born is one thing, wishing someone/something else had never been born is not a response of empathy but rather personal guilt.
by snovv_crash 5y ago
Wishing you had never been born is one thing, wishing someone/something else had never been born is not a response of empathy but rather personal guilt.
- nsonha 5y agoThis is not even a question, being born into a life of slavery and ultimately being slaughtered is worse than not being born. Think about it, you are born into a prison and given no chance to even develop a proper consciousness. This is very different than a fully aware human getting locked up in a prison.
- suifbwish 5y agoHowever since the individual being born is not making the choice, it falls to the individual or group benefitting from the individual being born into the circumstance you described. Universal morality is a form of anthropomorphization, or projecting human characteristics onto an amoral natural world.
- nsonha 5y agoThis is like the pro life argument. I love it when people are so argumentative about such a simple thing. We are talking about birth control, there is no individual exists to make any choice. > Projecting human characteristics onto an amoral natural world. this is not a bad thing comparing to the alternative which is assuming that animals are too dumb to be sympathize with
- kbelder 5y agoI don't know that all slaves would agree with you.
- nsonha 5y agoI made that last sentence just to preemptively respond to your argument. Also live stock is much worse than slavery
- suifbwish 5y agoEmpathy does not result in anyone trying to end suffering of another being but the own personal suffering they have through the empathetic connection, and thus they seek to end the suffering of others only because it causes them to suffer.
- nsonha 5y agoalso they said it as if the validity of our ideas is determined from our motivation, guilt is bad, empathy is good