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I know University of Calgary had a bio professor who got in hot water for abusing animals (essentially: he encouraged his student to not anaesthetize animals be
by catgary 5y ago
I know University of Calgary had a bio professor who got in hot water for abusing animals (essentially: he encouraged his student to not anaesthetize animals before surgery to fudge numbers). So there are definitely grad students who will happily torture animals if it can help their career.
- medstrom 5y agoDamn, they require you to tell them how many mice you've got so you can get that many anaesthesis doses? That rule wasn't thought through.
- reportingsjr 5y agoIt is common to use ketamine for anesthesia in animal testing. It's a controlled drug, so you have to keep a pretty good log of it's use.
- suifbwish 5y agoHow many Mice do you have? 800,000. You used ketamine for all of them? YES. Thats a lot of ketamine YES. Can you show us the mice? NO. Why not We disposed of their bodies after the experiment. Then how can we verify the data from the experiment? Give us ketamine for 800,000 more mice
- eru 5y agoGiven the amounts of bureaucracy involved, you are probably better off getting your ketamine on the black market.
- thereddaikon 5y agoNot sure where it came from, but there is a popular notion that scientists are somehow more moral than everyone else. Obviously that's not true. A lot of terrible things were made and many terrible acts committed by scientists. They can be just as depraved as the rest of us.
- eru 5y agoThe two things you mention are not necessarily in opposition: The average scientist could be much more moral than the average human, and you could still get the occasional mad man; just need a large enough population of scientists.