So who has access, if at all ? If nobody has access, how is deployment done or setup ? Can you imagine the "deployer" person ... learning or being replaced by a

So who has access, if at all ? If nobody has access, how is deployment done or setup ? Can you imagine the "deployer" person ... learning or being replaced by a developer ? This is an organisational weakness not to have figured out a way to make the people responsible for production, also responsible for reproduction and bug fixing. I've seen companies with a full team of developers who never add new features but only reproduce and fix the errors of the other feature teams, companies with read-only access to obfuscated informations good enough to reproduce without any client reference, companies who localize enough people in each jurisdiction the production is regulated in rather than have everyone out and unable to reach it. It's an organisational problem, fix it instead of saying it's impossible to be creative with it. And if my experience if anything to go by, regulators and auditors are either misunderstood in wayyy too conservative ways or are themselves misunderstanding in conservative ways their own rules: there always are ways to explain that it's more risky not to maintain production rather than let if rot slowly because "I can't ssh to the box". While it's always easier to be conservative with vague rules, it's also always possible to be clear faced with absurdity and it's rare people embrace the absurdity: usually they tell you: "I'll lose my job if I don't follow the rule X put in place 20 years ago" and not "I want the production to be offline the entire day during heavy traffic because I think clients prefer when they can't use our software". So, easy: "20 years ago, X. made a mistake - let's show him", and the answer from X is almost always "Why the fuck are you even asking me, ofc exceptions are possible, fix now we do the process after". And "doing the process" is often to can the old rule, or make it change so much it loses all fear factor and start being actually useful. Give up and rot, give feedback and soar :)