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Human beings are also designed for aggression towards each other, yet we generally try to control those parts of our 'savage nature' in modern society. Torturi

Human beings are also designed for aggression towards each other, yet we generally try to control those parts of our 'savage nature' in modern society. Torturing defenseless animals is not an inescapable facet of human nature. It's something we choose to do and be OK with.

deltaonefour 5y ago
>Human beings are also designed for aggression towards each other, yet we generally try to control those parts of our 'savage nature' in modern society. No. There is no evolutionary benefit for raw aggression. Raw aggression appears during times of limited resources where aggression contributes to survival. Humans as all living things, are designed to survive and use any means to achieve it. Given minimal resources we all will revert to our primal natures. >Torturing defenseless animals is not an inescapable facet of human nature. It's something we choose to do and be OK with. Nothing is inescapable. You are designed by nature to live out a certain lifetime yet you can escape your nature by killing yourself. This does not change your fundamental nature. We are more prone to follow our nature then to ignore it.
- robotresearcher 5y ago
  > There is no evolutionary benefit for raw aggression. Raw aggression appears during times of limited resources where aggression contributes to survival. Those sentences seem to contradict each other very directly.
  - deltaonefour 5y ago
    The benefit doesn't just exist for no reason. It only exists because of limited resources. When resources are not limited we don't display aggressive behavior. We are not living in a time of limited resources therefore it is actually evolutionary detrimental for us to be aggressive. It's not a coincidence that our popular culture de-emasculates itself bit by bit every decade. It's because we live in plentiful times and our behavior (which is conditioned through natural selection) reflects this.
emodendroket 5y ago
> Human beings are also designed for aggression towards each other, yet we generally try to control those parts of our 'savage nature' in modern society. Yes, we've developed quite sophisticated organizations to coordinate the violence, and then developed quite sophisticated weapons to carry it out.
- spoonjim 5y ago
  With the end result of vastly fewer deaths from violence per capita compared to primitive societies.
  - notch656a 5y ago
    This sounds true at face but do we have any evidence that violence per capita is lower here now than it is in a tighter but less organized clan society of yesteryear where any violence you would perpetrate would either be against your own extended family or outside aggressors (and modern society or at least US is already very brutal to outside nations).
  - emodendroket 5y ago
    On the other hand, also a level of terror unimaginable in the past if you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

deltaonefour 5y ago

>Human beings are also designed for aggression towards each other, yet we generally try to control those parts of our 'savage nature' in modern society. No. There is no evolutionary benefit for raw aggression. Raw aggression appears during times of limited resources where aggression contributes to survival. Humans as all living things, are designed to survive and use any means to achieve it. Given minimal resources we all will revert to our primal natures. >Torturing defenseless animals is not an inescapable facet of human nature. It's something we choose to do and be OK with. Nothing is inescapable. You are designed by nature to live out a certain lifetime yet you can escape your nature by killing yourself. This does not change your fundamental nature. We are more prone to follow our nature then to ignore it.

robotresearcher 5y ago
> There is no evolutionary benefit for raw aggression. Raw aggression appears during times of limited resources where aggression contributes to survival. Those sentences seem to contradict each other very directly.
- deltaonefour 5y ago
  The benefit doesn't just exist for no reason. It only exists because of limited resources. When resources are not limited we don't display aggressive behavior. We are not living in a time of limited resources therefore it is actually evolutionary detrimental for us to be aggressive. It's not a coincidence that our popular culture de-emasculates itself bit by bit every decade. It's because we live in plentiful times and our behavior (which is conditioned through natural selection) reflects this.

emodendroket 5y ago

> Human beings are also designed for aggression towards each other, yet we generally try to control those parts of our 'savage nature' in modern society. Yes, we've developed quite sophisticated organizations to coordinate the violence, and then developed quite sophisticated weapons to carry it out.

spoonjim 5y ago
With the end result of vastly fewer deaths from violence per capita compared to primitive societies.
- notch656a 5y ago
  This sounds true at face but do we have any evidence that violence per capita is lower here now than it is in a tighter but less organized clan society of yesteryear where any violence you would perpetrate would either be against your own extended family or outside aggressors (and modern society or at least US is already very brutal to outside nations).
- emodendroket 5y ago
  On the other hand, also a level of terror unimaginable in the past if you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.