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Not surprised. The Movie was an utter trash cash grab hollywood sellout "look how meta and cool I am" let's shit on the original. If you liked it I'd love to kn

Not surprised. The Movie was an utter trash cash grab hollywood sellout "look how meta and cool I am" let's shit on the original. If you liked it I'd love to know why?

aidog 5y ago
The meta aspect was a bit tedious at first, but I did enjoy how the story was set up. Neo trapped for years and years? Genius. NPH in the perfect role. It opened early in Japan, so I watched it last month, without trailers or anything. It's best to not expect anything, then it should be perfectly enjoyable.
oliyoung 5y ago
tldr, Resurrections is to Matrix what Last Jedi was to Star Wars. You're either in or you're out on it. ---- I think people have fallen into two camps, and it depends how you saw the first film. I loved Matrix, not for the wire-fu, gunplay and special effects, but for all the subtext and "simulacra and simulation" of it all. It was film that very cleverly pulled together a lot concepts that had been done in 90s cinema about depersonification, reality and identity and presented them in an incredibly unique way. If you liked Matrix for the wire-fu gunplay, Resurrections isn't your film, it does spend most of its time "shitting on the original" but that was the point. It's a deconstruction of "genre cinema" rebooting/remaking their successes to re-engage and revive a franchise.
- TrispusAttucks 5y ago
  I enjoyed the Matrix for the philosophical subtext. The gunplay and FX were just a great bonus and I still didn't enjoy Resurrections.
tunesmith 5y ago
I think most people that viscerally hate it came in with strong expectations. On its own I found it quite interesting. On the matrix reddit there are two "blue pill, red pill" threads that split apart the people that like it and don't, and for the people who like it there are some long essays explaining why, that I found heartfelt and well-reasoned. I have a theory that if people really liked Cloud Atlas and Sense8, they're more apt to like Resurrections.
- dereg 5y ago
  You nailed it. Cloud Atlas is one of my favorite movies of all time and, yet, it is like cilantro – some people love it, some people hate it. The opinions about the movie are so polar that I feel it's genetic. I also enjoyed Resurrections and think it's less cynical that others assert it is. Do you have links to those essays? I would love to
- TrispusAttucks 5y ago
  Cloud Atlas is one of my favorite movies of all time. IMHO Resurrections isn't even in the same league as Cloud Atlas.
scoopdewoop 5y ago
In my opinion, the movie wasn't trying to shit on the original at all. The Matrix has, since the beginning, been a really sentimental, romantic story that wears its heart on its sleeve and really directly states its themes. Meanwhile, the series ballooned into a big franchise that ran its course, its about to get put through the reboot-industrial complex, and its themes get adulterated and co-opted all of the time. The Matrix in pop culture is more associated with style and effects than the themes. The new sequel did a really good job of adding nuance and deepening the themes already present in the trilogy. Specifically the way systems define our reality as a means of control. It did so while tying in really well with the first films world-building, expanding on more nuanced understanding of AI/programs that the sequels started to explore. The film did take some time to reclaim its narrative, but I think it did so in a way that most fans can appreciate.
- dereg 5y ago
  I agree with you. I think it tried less to shit on the original movie than make you deeply question what you believed to be true about the original movie (and trilogy). On one hand, you could believe that this was all some cheap gimmick to boot. On the other hand, you could have deep faith that love is all that matters. I believe that it's an achievement for the film to garner this much discussion. If anything, the film predicts it.
Pigalowda 5y ago
It wasn’t a good movie and it wasn’t supposed to be. I personally disliked it enough to turn it off early but I imagine there’s enough contrarians around that when told by Wachowski through the 4th wall that its a forced piece of art and is going to be garbage - they’ll like it specifically for that reason. Maybe they’ll even give it a positive review and good word of mouth to completely negate the director’s intention to undermine Warner Bros.
- TrispusAttucks 5y ago
  Agreed. At least the movie says it right up front with the dialogue between Neo and Smith, "This is a total sellout and nobody wants to do it but parent company wants some money." The only thing missing was the two of them looking directly at the audience behind the fourth wall in awkward synchronized silence. That said, Art that wishes itself never born is not art I care to watch.

Not surprised. The Movie was an utter trash cash grab hollywood sellout "look how meta and cool I am" let's shit on the original. If you liked it I'd love to know why?

aidog 5y ago

The meta aspect was a bit tedious at first, but I did enjoy how the story was set up. Neo trapped for years and years? Genius. NPH in the perfect role. It opened early in Japan, so I watched it last month, without trailers or anything. It's best to not expect anything, then it should be perfectly enjoyable.

oliyoung 5y ago

tldr, Resurrections is to Matrix what Last Jedi was to Star Wars. You're either in or you're out on it. ---- I think people have fallen into two camps, and it depends how you saw the first film. I loved Matrix, not for the wire-fu, gunplay and special effects, but for all the subtext and "simulacra and simulation" of it all. It was film that very cleverly pulled together a lot concepts that had been done in 90s cinema about depersonification, reality and identity and presented them in an incredibly unique way. If you liked Matrix for the wire-fu gunplay, Resurrections isn't your film, it does spend most of its time "shitting on the original" but that was the point. It's a deconstruction of "genre cinema" rebooting/remaking their successes to re-engage and revive a franchise.

TrispusAttucks 5y ago
I enjoyed the Matrix for the philosophical subtext. The gunplay and FX were just a great bonus and I still didn't enjoy Resurrections.

tunesmith 5y ago

I think most people that viscerally hate it came in with strong expectations. On its own I found it quite interesting. On the matrix reddit there are two "blue pill, red pill" threads that split apart the people that like it and don't, and for the people who like it there are some long essays explaining why, that I found heartfelt and well-reasoned. I have a theory that if people really liked Cloud Atlas and Sense8, they're more apt to like Resurrections.

dereg 5y ago
You nailed it. Cloud Atlas is one of my favorite movies of all time and, yet, it is like cilantro – some people love it, some people hate it. The opinions about the movie are so polar that I feel it's genetic. I also enjoyed Resurrections and think it's less cynical that others assert it is. Do you have links to those essays? I would love to
TrispusAttucks 5y ago
Cloud Atlas is one of my favorite movies of all time. IMHO Resurrections isn't even in the same league as Cloud Atlas.

scoopdewoop 5y ago

In my opinion, the movie wasn't trying to shit on the original at all. The Matrix has, since the beginning, been a really sentimental, romantic story that wears its heart on its sleeve and really directly states its themes. Meanwhile, the series ballooned into a big franchise that ran its course, its about to get put through the reboot-industrial complex, and its themes get adulterated and co-opted all of the time. The Matrix in pop culture is more associated with style and effects than the themes. The new sequel did a really good job of adding nuance and deepening the themes already present in the trilogy. Specifically the way systems define our reality as a means of control. It did so while tying in really well with the first films world-building, expanding on more nuanced understanding of AI/programs that the sequels started to explore. The film did take some time to reclaim its narrative, but I think it did so in a way that most fans can appreciate.

dereg 5y ago
I agree with you. I think it tried less to shit on the original movie than make you deeply question what you believed to be true about the original movie (and trilogy). On one hand, you could believe that this was all some cheap gimmick to boot. On the other hand, you could have deep faith that love is all that matters. I believe that it's an achievement for the film to garner this much discussion. If anything, the film predicts it.

Pigalowda 5y ago

It wasn’t a good movie and it wasn’t supposed to be. I personally disliked it enough to turn it off early but I imagine there’s enough contrarians around that when told by Wachowski through the 4th wall that its a forced piece of art and is going to be garbage - they’ll like it specifically for that reason. Maybe they’ll even give it a positive review and good word of mouth to completely negate the director’s intention to undermine Warner Bros.

TrispusAttucks 5y ago
Agreed. At least the movie says it right up front with the dialogue between Neo and Smith, "This is a total sellout and nobody wants to do it but parent company wants some money." The only thing missing was the two of them looking directly at the audience behind the fourth wall in awkward synchronized silence. That said, Art that wishes itself never born is not art I care to watch.