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> The commission says the legal concerns raised by the EDPS raise “a serious challenge” for Europol’s ability to fulfil its duties. Last year, it proposed sweep

> The commission says the legal concerns raised by the EDPS raise “a serious challenge” for Europol’s ability to fulfil its duties. Last year, it proposed sweeping changes to the regulation underpinning Europol’s powers. If made law, the proposals could in effect retrospectively legalise the data cache and preserve its contents as a testing ground for new AI and machine learning tools. > ... > The tussle that followed is captured in a series of internal documents obtained under freedom of information laws. They show Europol stalling for time and the watchdog telling them that they have failed to resolve “the legal breach”. The police agency appears to be holding out for new EU legislation to provide retrospective cover for what it has been doing without a legal basis for six years. > The European Commission’s nervousness over a public clash was enough to pull Monique Pariat, the EU’s director general for home affairs, into a meeting between the two agencies in December 2021. Sources said the watchdog had been encouraged to “tone down” its public criticism of Europol. Typical. Any talk of privacy in EU circles is mere marketing speak, void of everything. Europol won't be deleting anything and the Commission has their back on it. It's just amazing. Anytime I read something about the Commission and compare what I've just read with the priorities they themselves have announced, it becomes clear their stated priorities are complete fiction, something someone wrote just to fill a page. You can throw in a new set of stooges every now and then but I guess a rotten institution just stays rotten.

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kiliancs 5y ago
> Typical. Any talk of privacy in EU circles is mere marketing speak, void of everything. I have observed this with many other areas, not just privacy. Very sad to see this in contrast with what the EU could be.
- coldtea 5y ago
  A union the nation states people actually asked for, instead of having it be imposed unto them?
  - IAmEveryone 5y ago
    The EU has majority approval in every single member country and even the UK. In many cases, it gets 2/3 majorities. Apart from survey data, there have been many referenda on EU membership or aspects of it over the years, with similar results. Even for the most critical of countries, at the high point of anti-EU propaganda, opposition reached just a hair over 50%, which has turned out to be very unfortunate timing for the UK. Edit: I had looked for, but forgot to include, the data: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/11/17/majorities-in-the-european-union-have-favorable-views-of-the-bloc/ https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/11/17/majorities-in-...
    - coldtea 5y ago
      >The EU has majority approval in every single member country and even the UK Yeah, just not the EU power centers (the Commission for one), which were never voted for, and increasingly moved state power over to bureaucracy and unelected shadow bodies. >Apart from survey data, there have been many referenda on EU membership or aspects of it over the years, with similar results. Yes. And when they failed, they were repeated to taste or merely ignored. (And ahead of those, the EU bodies devoted lots of funds to "educational" campains on those matters to promote the desired results in the press, yielded bribes, sorry, developmental packages and exerted pressure, in a carrot and stick manner, to get nation states to vote favorably).

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kiliancs 5y ago

> Typical. Any talk of privacy in EU circles is mere marketing speak, void of everything. I have observed this with many other areas, not just privacy. Very sad to see this in contrast with what the EU could be.

coldtea 5y ago
A union the nation states people actually asked for, instead of having it be imposed unto them?
- IAmEveryone 5y ago
  The EU has majority approval in every single member country and even the UK. In many cases, it gets 2/3 majorities. Apart from survey data, there have been many referenda on EU membership or aspects of it over the years, with similar results. Even for the most critical of countries, at the high point of anti-EU propaganda, opposition reached just a hair over 50%, which has turned out to be very unfortunate timing for the UK. Edit: I had looked for, but forgot to include, the data: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/11/17/majorities-in-the-european-union-have-favorable-views-of-the-bloc/ https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/11/17/majorities-in-...
  - coldtea 5y ago
    >The EU has majority approval in every single member country and even the UK Yeah, just not the EU power centers (the Commission for one), which were never voted for, and increasingly moved state power over to bureaucracy and unelected shadow bodies. >Apart from survey data, there have been many referenda on EU membership or aspects of it over the years, with similar results. Yes. And when they failed, they were repeated to taste or merely ignored. (And ahead of those, the EU bodies devoted lots of funds to "educational" campains on those matters to promote the desired results in the press, yielded bribes, sorry, developmental packages and exerted pressure, in a carrot and stick manner, to get nation states to vote favorably).