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Same here. Still have heart inflammation 4 months after my second dose of Pfizer. I remember when the statistics were “1/1000000”, and now its 1/10000 for boys

Same here. Still have heart inflammation 4 months after my second dose of Pfizer. I remember when the statistics were “1/1000000”, and now its 1/10000 for boys 12-17 [1]. In my opinion its insanity to give this to children, especially now that omicron is here. [1] - Table 2, https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-02-12-2021 https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safe...

JSoet 5y ago
I mean, I'm not an expert by any means, but the link you shared also says "Myocarditis is seen much more commonly in people who become infected with COVID-19 than in people who are vaccinated. A preliminary study from the United States(link is external) found the rate of myocarditis in young men after COVID-19 is approximately 45 cases per 100,000 infections"... So, a higher incidence among people with infections than vaccinations, so if you're suggesting to just let everyone get infected... Anyway, I think it's really difficult to weigh the risk when we're dealing with such small numbers (0.045% vs 0.01%), and we don't know all the data.
- nightowl_games 5y ago
  > Myocarditis is seen much more commonly in people who become infected with COVID-19 than in people who are vaccinated. A preliminary study from the United States. Recent data from Ontario has effectively ended this debate. Myocarditis is definitely more common from dose 2 moderna than from covid in young boys, and the same is probably true for Pfizer mostly because we don't actually know how many people have caught covid. https://youtu.be/xzVoS-1TIWI https://youtu.be/xzVoS-1TIWI
treelovinhippie 5y ago
There's also a side effect that isn't reported at all in the TGA's weekly reports and risk stats: costochondritis and/or myalgia. I had 3 weeks of intense chest pains after 1st Pfizer and another week of mild chest pains after the 2nd dose. All tests normal. Four separate doctors said it was a common side effect and they had no idea what it was. Now 3 months after my 2nd dose I still get chest discomfort after lifting weights, and have had to quit caffeine entirely as it results in days of chest pains after physical activity. Didn't have those issues prior. Vaccine-induced costochondritis seems to fit best.
landemva 5y ago
I am curious how heart inflammation can be measured at home. I would like to start recording a baseline for myself.

JSoet 5y ago

I mean, I'm not an expert by any means, but the link you shared also says "Myocarditis is seen much more commonly in people who become infected with COVID-19 than in people who are vaccinated. A preliminary study from the United States(link is external) found the rate of myocarditis in young men after COVID-19 is approximately 45 cases per 100,000 infections"... So, a higher incidence among people with infections than vaccinations, so if you're suggesting to just let everyone get infected... Anyway, I think it's really difficult to weigh the risk when we're dealing with such small numbers (0.045% vs 0.01%), and we don't know all the data.

nightowl_games 5y ago
> Myocarditis is seen much more commonly in people who become infected with COVID-19 than in people who are vaccinated. A preliminary study from the United States. Recent data from Ontario has effectively ended this debate. Myocarditis is definitely more common from dose 2 moderna than from covid in young boys, and the same is probably true for Pfizer mostly because we don't actually know how many people have caught covid. https://youtu.be/xzVoS-1TIWI https://youtu.be/xzVoS-1TIWI

treelovinhippie 5y ago

There's also a side effect that isn't reported at all in the TGA's weekly reports and risk stats: costochondritis and/or myalgia. I had 3 weeks of intense chest pains after 1st Pfizer and another week of mild chest pains after the 2nd dose. All tests normal. Four separate doctors said it was a common side effect and they had no idea what it was. Now 3 months after my 2nd dose I still get chest discomfort after lifting weights, and have had to quit caffeine entirely as it results in days of chest pains after physical activity. Didn't have those issues prior. Vaccine-induced costochondritis seems to fit best.

landemva 5y ago

I am curious how heart inflammation can be measured at home. I would like to start recording a baseline for myself.