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if i had to hypothesize why T-Mobile are doing this, its streaming media. TMobile has numerous pay-for-play access contracts in place for companies like netfli

if i had to hypothesize why T-Mobile are doing this, its streaming media. TMobile has numerous pay-for-play access contracts in place for companies like netflix and hulu. in return they get a QoS tier and guaranteed minimums for their subscribers. conversely, as others have mentioned and the article itself, private relay is absolutely haram. it damages tmobiles ability to deliver edge content from their contractually obligated players like netflix (without a region netflix quality might suffer) and it completely sidesteps all of TMobiles lucrative user plans that include access to streaming media as a feature relative to the users data cap. increasingly private "anything" on a cellphone is becoming a hostile proposition for carriers as their revenue is largely based on predatory surveillance capitalism. without metrics and metadata, theyre no different than the water company.

kornhole 5y ago
Having worked for a couple carriers, network operators, and the back end data processor for them, I agree that the carriers are fighting and losing the data wars. They did make a lot of money on surveillance, but it is dropping as more coms are encrypted. I don't quite understand why people feel comfortable with a $3T company holding all their data, but I guess it is just in fewer baskets. People like me who know too much only use VOIP and prepaid burner SIM's on phones that always run VPN and airplane mode 98% of the time. It is way cheaper and more secure.
mariojv 5y ago
I don't think Private Relay routes app traffic through Apple servers, just Safari traffic: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212614 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212614 Please correct me if I'm wrong. If that's the case, I believe most/all iPhone users watch Netflix/content sites via an app, so that traffic would not be routed via Private Relay. This may affect Mac Safari traffic, though. I am curious if they have any exceptions on the backend for edge content providers.

kornhole 5y ago

Having worked for a couple carriers, network operators, and the back end data processor for them, I agree that the carriers are fighting and losing the data wars. They did make a lot of money on surveillance, but it is dropping as more coms are encrypted. I don't quite understand why people feel comfortable with a $3T company holding all their data, but I guess it is just in fewer baskets. People like me who know too much only use VOIP and prepaid burner SIM's on phones that always run VPN and airplane mode 98% of the time. It is way cheaper and more secure.

mariojv 5y ago

I don't think Private Relay routes app traffic through Apple servers, just Safari traffic: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212614 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212614 Please correct me if I'm wrong. If that's the case, I believe most/all iPhone users watch Netflix/content sites via an app, so that traffic would not be routed via Private Relay. This may affect Mac Safari traffic, though. I am curious if they have any exceptions on the backend for edge content providers.