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Context: I have a PhD in physics, and I've got a great grasp of ventilation and filtration. I don't know much about the immune system... My biology training nev
by MengerSponge 5y ago
Context: I have a PhD in physics, and I've got a great grasp of ventilation and filtration. I don't know much about the immune system... My biology training never progressed much past Mitochondria are the powerhouse of the cell. I don't have qualifications in the subject, but my qualifications help me assess other experts.
Experts often get things wrong, but they tend to become less wrong over time. See the shifting consensus about aerosol spread.
Experts think vaccines are a good idea. The data continues to reinforce that position.
If you were a family member, an old friend, or otherwise closely connected to me, I'd talk to you on the phone. I love my family, and I would not sit down and consume anything with you. You literally could not pay me enough. Not because I abhor a liberal discussion--quite the opposite. You've shown yourself to be irrational and unwilling to adapt your position, and as a result you've managed to catch Covid a second time. Your wife got it too? I'm not going to waste my time and breath on you.
Consider this: what would it take for you to reconsider your position? Because billions of doses of several different vaccines have been delivered to an exceptionally weary world, and a tiny fraction of those recipients have seen negative side effects.
Vaccinations are more effective at preventing disease than recovering from the native variant:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm?s_cid=mm7044e1_w https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm?s_cid=mm...
- curmudgeon22 5y agoHave a look as these case rates by vaccination status, per 100,000. There is a higher case rate among the fully vaccinated since late December. Would you have a meal with a vaccinated family member? Why is that safer than a non-vaccinated? https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/case-numbers-and-spread https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/case-numbers-and-spread (COVID-19 cases by vaccination status)
- pseudalopex 5y agoThose rates ignore exposure, testing, and severity differences. Ontario mandated vaccination for high risk work and leisure settings. Mandatory tests are more common in high risk work settings. Elective vaccination and elective testing correlate probably.
- curmudgeon22 5y agoFair point, why does this correlation only manifest now, not sooner? Also tough to guess at how much this might skew things.
- pseudalopex 5y agoIt manifested when a vaccine resistant strain did. The unvaccinated case rate was higher until after the omicron surge inflection point.
- upsidesinclude 5y ago>Context: I have a PhD in physics. - of course you do
- MengerSponge 5y agoMy handle would better suit a mathematician, but snooze you lose, topologists!