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I'm not convince we did beat it. For decades people would ask, "why is there no vaccine for the cold or flu like smallpox, measles, mumps, rubella, and chicken

I'm not convince we did beat it. For decades people would ask, "why is there no vaccine for the cold or flu like smallpox, measles, mumps, rubella, and chicken pox?" and the answer was that they were fast evolving corona viruses and you cannot vaccinate for those. Then suddenly we have one this time. But it's efficacy drops - according to Pfizer's own trial - to ~47% after six months. And people "double vaxxed and boosted" still get it. And still die from it. So...we still don't have vaccines for those it seems to me. It doesn't matter how many people call them that, they don't provide immunity like vaccines do. Big pharma did get super rich off of them. And you can't sue them if they kill your spouse. So there's that at least I guess.

javagram 5y ago
> For decades people would ask, "why is there no vaccine for the cold or flu like smallpox, measles, mumps, rubella, and chicken pox?" and the answer was that they were fast evolving corona viruses and you cannot vaccinate for those. I would suggest doing some research on Google. We’ve had vaccines for influenza (flu) for over 70 years. And yes, sometimes their efficacy was under 50% but they’ve always been called vaccines and have saved thousands of lives.
McGlockenshire 5y ago
> And people "double vaxxed and boosted" still get it. And still die from it. The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is 91% effective in preventing the COVID-19 virus with symptoms in people age 16 and older. The Moderna COVID-19 vaccine is 94% effective in preventing COVID-19 with symptoms. Janssen/Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine. In clinical trials, this vaccine was 66% effective in preventing the COVID-19 virus with symptoms — as of 14 days after vaccination. The vaccine also was 85% effective at preventing severe disease with COVID-19 — at least 28 days after vaccination. Source: The Mayo Clinic https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-vaccine/art-20484859 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/i... I'm not going to bother debunking the rest of that bullshit. Your statement is straight out of the anti-vaccine propaganda playbook. Shame on you for spreading FUD.
- lordloki 5y ago
  Those numbers are laughable. Look around there are 100s of thousands of vaccinated people testing positive in the US daily! Those numbers may have been true against the original version of covid-19, but they are way off now.
  - recursive 5y ago
    On their own, these numbers do not contradict each other.
  - NaturalPhallacy 5y ago
    If hundreds of thousands of people vaccinated people are testing positive, how was it ever a vaccine? It's a glorified flu shot with a 6 month half life. Just like the flu shot...

javagram 5y ago

> For decades people would ask, "why is there no vaccine for the cold or flu like smallpox, measles, mumps, rubella, and chicken pox?" and the answer was that they were fast evolving corona viruses and you cannot vaccinate for those. I would suggest doing some research on Google. We’ve had vaccines for influenza (flu) for over 70 years. And yes, sometimes their efficacy was under 50% but they’ve always been called vaccines and have saved thousands of lives.

McGlockenshire 5y ago

> And people "double vaxxed and boosted" still get it. And still die from it. The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is 91% effective in preventing the COVID-19 virus with symptoms in people age 16 and older. The Moderna COVID-19 vaccine is 94% effective in preventing COVID-19 with symptoms. Janssen/Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine. In clinical trials, this vaccine was 66% effective in preventing the COVID-19 virus with symptoms — as of 14 days after vaccination. The vaccine also was 85% effective at preventing severe disease with COVID-19 — at least 28 days after vaccination. Source: The Mayo Clinic https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-vaccine/art-20484859 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/i... I'm not going to bother debunking the rest of that bullshit. Your statement is straight out of the anti-vaccine propaganda playbook. Shame on you for spreading FUD.

lordloki 5y ago
Those numbers are laughable. Look around there are 100s of thousands of vaccinated people testing positive in the US daily! Those numbers may have been true against the original version of covid-19, but they are way off now.
- recursive 5y ago
  On their own, these numbers do not contradict each other.
- NaturalPhallacy 5y ago
  If hundreds of thousands of people vaccinated people are testing positive, how was it ever a vaccine? It's a glorified flu shot with a 6 month half life. Just like the flu shot...