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I would love to try elixir, but JetBrains still does not have an IDE for it. I'm addicted to their IDEs. I did try the community made plug-in for elixir, but h

by syspec 5y ago

I would love to try elixir, but JetBrains still does not have an IDE for it. I'm addicted to their IDEs. I did try the community made plug-in for elixir, but had trouble getting the debugger to work which was a show stopper for me.

dnautics 5y ago
You probably don't want to use an ide-driven debugger for elixir, you'll want to use :dbg which has a different "conceptual model" than what you are used to and doesn't map well onto Conventional debuggers. It's simply not the same due to the extreme high degree of concurrency in the beam VM
- syspec 5y ago
  Well, no I actually do want that in my local environment where the only request is my own. The fact that you are telling me that I don't want something, is why people some people find the Elixir community off-putting.
  - dnautics 5y ago
    > the only request is my own Literally, elixir doesn't work like that. There is a bunch of other stuff running around in the VM, even if you don't ask for it. It's like an operating system. > is why people some people find the Elixir community off-putting I mean ok. Note that I said "you probably". I'm just coming from a lot more experience than you have. But sure, keep giving yourself excuses to be closed minded. It really sounds like you went into the whole thing with the "let me find a reason to hate elixir" mindset, and not the "let me see what people are raving about mindset". Anyways, you're the one missing out.
    - syspec 5y ago
      > Literally, elixir doesn't work like that. There is a bunch of other stuff running around in the VM, even if you don't ask for it. It's like an operating system. And yet, it does. Here's proof that you're wrong, a screenshot of the community Elixir plugin paused on a breakpoint, all the variables inspectable/modifiable and you can even jump around the stack: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KronicDeth/intellij-elixir/main/screenshots/Debugger.png https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KronicDeth/intellij-elixir... The problem was that I could not get the plugin to work consistently, but when it did work it was great. > I'm just coming from a lot more experience than you have... giving yourself excuses to be closed minded....Anyways, you're the one missing out. Ah huh, I'm sure...
  - weatherlite 5y ago
princevegeta89 5y ago
Sorry I had to intervene here. I had the same sentiment about IDE support for Elixir from using the mediocre IntelliJ Plugin. However... after dabbling a bit I discovered VS Code + Remote Containers Plugin (because of Docker) + ElixirLS + other minor Elixir plugins that have turned my Elixir development experience into pure bliss. I haven't used the debugger in the IDE yet but I am 99% sure it's gonna work out of the box. Happy to try and share the setup if you want to try it out.

by syspec 5y ago

dnautics 5y ago

You probably don't want to use an ide-driven debugger for elixir, you'll want to use :dbg which has a different "conceptual model" than what you are used to and doesn't map well onto Conventional debuggers. It's simply not the same due to the extreme high degree of concurrency in the beam VM

syspec 5y ago
Well, no I actually do want that in my local environment where the only request is my own. The fact that you are telling me that I don't want something, is why people some people find the Elixir community off-putting.
- dnautics 5y ago
  > the only request is my own Literally, elixir doesn't work like that. There is a bunch of other stuff running around in the VM, even if you don't ask for it. It's like an operating system. > is why people some people find the Elixir community off-putting I mean ok. Note that I said "you probably". I'm just coming from a lot more experience than you have. But sure, keep giving yourself excuses to be closed minded. It really sounds like you went into the whole thing with the "let me find a reason to hate elixir" mindset, and not the "let me see what people are raving about mindset". Anyways, you're the one missing out.
  - syspec 5y ago
    > Literally, elixir doesn't work like that. There is a bunch of other stuff running around in the VM, even if you don't ask for it. It's like an operating system. And yet, it does. Here's proof that you're wrong, a screenshot of the community Elixir plugin paused on a breakpoint, all the variables inspectable/modifiable and you can even jump around the stack: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KronicDeth/intellij-elixir/main/screenshots/Debugger.png https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KronicDeth/intellij-elixir... The problem was that I could not get the plugin to work consistently, but when it did work it was great. > I'm just coming from a lot more experience than you have... giving yourself excuses to be closed minded....Anyways, you're the one missing out. Ah huh, I'm sure...
- weatherlite 5y ago

princevegeta89 5y ago

Sorry I had to intervene here. I had the same sentiment about IDE support for Elixir from using the mediocre IntelliJ Plugin. However... after dabbling a bit I discovered VS Code + Remote Containers Plugin (because of Docker) + ElixirLS + other minor Elixir plugins that have turned my Elixir development experience into pure bliss. I haven't used the debugger in the IDE yet but I am 99% sure it's gonna work out of the box. Happy to try and share the setup if you want to try it out.