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Yep. Sometimes when I air opinions like these, I get the response "but attitudes like that will keep the pandemic and shutdowns going for longer!". It's surpris

Yep. Sometimes when I air opinions like these, I get the response "but attitudes like that will keep the pandemic and shutdowns going for longer!". It's surprisingly hard to explain that I also don't want my nursery to shutdown if someone merely tests positive for Covid. Personally, I've decided to re-brand "asymptomatic" as "not ill".

pasabagi 5y ago
This sounds like a bad policy on the nursery's part. We have a soft lockdown when somebody has a case: basically, the group who had a positive test is secluded from the other groups and get daily tests.
- ya_throw 5y ago
  We know about "soft lockdowns" too (in fact, it's now just standard practice around here). It's why our kids get less age-appropriate care - for example, they can't mix with the groups who share the same sleeping pattern as they do, and are forced to stick to whatever their "bubble" is doing. To me, this is incredibly developmentally inappropriate.
  - pasabagi 5y ago
    Well, pandemics suck, what's new? It's also bad if the kita has to shut down because all the staff are sick. It seems like a good balance to me.
    - ya_throw 5y ago
      What's new is deliberately destroying a generation's future potential, for a disease that barely affects them. What's also new is that the repercussions of our collective response to this disease will be felt long after Covid fades to another endemic sniffle.
BTCOG 5y ago
100% of people can get these vaccines, and 100% of people will still get and spread Coronaviruses. Full stop. It's getting really old hearing that vaccines will stop anything when the majority of people spreading this shit RIGHT NOW, are vaccinated people. The people I've been seeing the sickest for a year now when they do get sick, are vaccinated. The 3-4 people I know recently who were very sick with COVID for 10 or more days with breathing troubles, were VACCINATED. The shit is nonsense anymore.
- panarky 5y ago
  > sickest for a year now when they do get sick, are vaccinated The vast majority of those in ICUs and morgues are unvaccinated.
  - ya_throw 5y ago
    And? Where I live (Wales), total ICU usage right now is 77%. The absolute numbers are very small. If you want to make an argument that people should not add an un-necessary burden on the health services, then why restrict the discussion to Covid?
    - panarky 5y ago
      I was responding to the claim that vaccinated people are the ones with the worst illness. That claim is dangerous bullshit.
      - BTCOG 5y ago
        I never claimed that vaccinated people are getting sicker than a comparison to non-vaccinated people. I plainly said that the "sickest people I know lately" are all vaccinated. You took it and spun it into apparently what you wanted to take from it. You have taken what I said and what I meant out of context.
        panarky 5y ago

pasabagi 5y ago

This sounds like a bad policy on the nursery's part. We have a soft lockdown when somebody has a case: basically, the group who had a positive test is secluded from the other groups and get daily tests.

ya_throw 5y ago
We know about "soft lockdowns" too (in fact, it's now just standard practice around here). It's why our kids get less age-appropriate care - for example, they can't mix with the groups who share the same sleeping pattern as they do, and are forced to stick to whatever their "bubble" is doing. To me, this is incredibly developmentally inappropriate.
- pasabagi 5y ago
  Well, pandemics suck, what's new? It's also bad if the kita has to shut down because all the staff are sick. It seems like a good balance to me.
  - ya_throw 5y ago
    What's new is deliberately destroying a generation's future potential, for a disease that barely affects them. What's also new is that the repercussions of our collective response to this disease will be felt long after Covid fades to another endemic sniffle.

BTCOG 5y ago

100% of people can get these vaccines, and 100% of people will still get and spread Coronaviruses. Full stop. It's getting really old hearing that vaccines will stop anything when the majority of people spreading this shit RIGHT NOW, are vaccinated people. The people I've been seeing the sickest for a year now when they do get sick, are vaccinated. The 3-4 people I know recently who were very sick with COVID for 10 or more days with breathing troubles, were VACCINATED. The shit is nonsense anymore.

panarky 5y ago
> sickest for a year now when they do get sick, are vaccinated The vast majority of those in ICUs and morgues are unvaccinated.
- ya_throw 5y ago
  And? Where I live (Wales), total ICU usage right now is 77%. The absolute numbers are very small. If you want to make an argument that people should not add an un-necessary burden on the health services, then why restrict the discussion to Covid?
  - panarky 5y ago
    I was responding to the claim that vaccinated people are the ones with the worst illness. That claim is dangerous bullshit.
    - BTCOG 5y ago
      I never claimed that vaccinated people are getting sicker than a comparison to non-vaccinated people. I plainly said that the "sickest people I know lately" are all vaccinated. You took it and spun it into apparently what you wanted to take from it. You have taken what I said and what I meant out of context.
      - panarky 5y ago