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He has natural immunity. There are literally only downside risks from taking the shot. Who gets vaccinated for a disease they already had? No one gets measles a

He has natural immunity. There are literally only downside risks from taking the shot. Who gets vaccinated for a disease they already had? No one gets measles and THEN gets vaccinated.

jeremyjh 5y ago
- axiosgunnar 5y ago
  What does any of this have to do with any kind of political spectrum? It is laughable to try to turn everything into left-right politics. Is eating pineapple pizza leftwing or rightwing extremism?
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- curmudgeon22 5y ago
  There are risks from the vaccines, even if they are rare. Why expose yourself if you're protected already? Myocarditis being the main one: - Postmarketing data demonstrate increased risks of myocarditis and pericarditis, particularly within 7 days following the second dose. [1] - The true incidence of myopericarditis is markedly higher than the incidence reported to US advisory committees. (preprint) [2] [1] https://www.fda.gov/media/151707/download https://www.fda.gov/media/151707/download [2] https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.21.21268209v1.full.pdf https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.21.21268209v...
  - lovich 5y ago
    > There are risks from the vaccines, even if they are rare Is pretty semantically different from > There are literally only downside risks from taking the shot. Which I think was the poster’s point about right wing talking points coming from a brand new account
ancientsofmumu 5y ago
> Who gets vaccinated for a disease they already had? Chickenpox (a form of herpes) lies dormant in the system for decades causes Shingles. Vaccinations are recommended at 50+ for people who have had the former to prevent the latter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenpox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenpox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoster_vaccine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoster_vaccine
- luke_value 5y ago
  This is a non sequitur. This is to prevent reactivation of a dormant infection. With SARS-Cov2 we're talking about reinfection.
buu700 5y ago
He just said he tested positive (again). That means he can still spread the virus to other people; it's entirely possible that his getting the shot would have spared his wife her current symptoms. Elevated risk of infection, even if asymptomatic, is also elevated risk of having to unexpectedly quarantine in the future. A vaccine would have lowered the odds of that, and it will still lower the odds of it happening again in the future. On the other hand, the risks and downsides of getting vaccinated are negligible. This is like asking why it's worth driving sober when you already have seatbelts (masks) and airbags (natural immunity).
- PKop 5y ago
  This is a very weak, modern, hyper-fearful mentality that is not consistent with reality. You're wishing you lived in a utopia, but you don't. You live in the real world. The vaccine cannot prevent infection from the current strains. Everyone is at risk of getting COVID and most likely will get it. You can't hide from this disease, but it's ok because the virus has weakened as it's become more infectious, as coronaviruses tend to do. >the risks and downsides of getting vaccinated are negligible You can't know what the long-term effects of this new type of vaccine are. Especially given people have to take it over and over again for to have any effectiveness, so negative effects could possibly accumulate. But it won't prevent catching COVID anyways. Like 5 of my friends and family recently got COVID over Christmas that were all vaccinated. The stats on case numbers bear this out: vaccinated are catching the Omicron strain. The vaccines can't stop this. Natural immunity works many times better than these vaccines and providing protection against infection anyways. This is how it will go, no matter how many boosters you take.
  - buu700 5y ago
    What are you talking about? No one suggested that the vaccine would prevent infection 100% reliably, and I'm not sure why you think we have a better understanding of the long-term effects of covid than mRNA vaccines (which aren't the only type of vaccine available in the first place).
    - PKop 5y ago
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He has natural immunity. There are literally only downside risks from taking the shot. Who gets vaccinated for a disease they already had? No one gets measles and THEN gets vaccinated.

jeremyjh 5y ago

axiosgunnar 5y ago
What does any of this have to do with any kind of political spectrum? It is laughable to try to turn everything into left-right politics. Is eating pineapple pizza leftwing or rightwing extremism?
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curmudgeon22 5y ago
There are risks from the vaccines, even if they are rare. Why expose yourself if you're protected already? Myocarditis being the main one: - Postmarketing data demonstrate increased risks of myocarditis and pericarditis, particularly within 7 days following the second dose. [1] - The true incidence of myopericarditis is markedly higher than the incidence reported to US advisory committees. (preprint) [2] [1] https://www.fda.gov/media/151707/download https://www.fda.gov/media/151707/download [2] https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.21.21268209v1.full.pdf https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.21.21268209v...
- lovich 5y ago
  > There are risks from the vaccines, even if they are rare Is pretty semantically different from > There are literally only downside risks from taking the shot. Which I think was the poster’s point about right wing talking points coming from a brand new account

ancientsofmumu 5y ago

> Who gets vaccinated for a disease they already had? Chickenpox (a form of herpes) lies dormant in the system for decades causes Shingles. Vaccinations are recommended at 50+ for people who have had the former to prevent the latter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenpox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenpox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoster_vaccine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoster_vaccine

luke_value 5y ago
This is a non sequitur. This is to prevent reactivation of a dormant infection. With SARS-Cov2 we're talking about reinfection.

buu700 5y ago

He just said he tested positive (again). That means he can still spread the virus to other people; it's entirely possible that his getting the shot would have spared his wife her current symptoms. Elevated risk of infection, even if asymptomatic, is also elevated risk of having to unexpectedly quarantine in the future. A vaccine would have lowered the odds of that, and it will still lower the odds of it happening again in the future. On the other hand, the risks and downsides of getting vaccinated are negligible. This is like asking why it's worth driving sober when you already have seatbelts (masks) and airbags (natural immunity).

PKop 5y ago
This is a very weak, modern, hyper-fearful mentality that is not consistent with reality. You're wishing you lived in a utopia, but you don't. You live in the real world. The vaccine cannot prevent infection from the current strains. Everyone is at risk of getting COVID and most likely will get it. You can't hide from this disease, but it's ok because the virus has weakened as it's become more infectious, as coronaviruses tend to do. >the risks and downsides of getting vaccinated are negligible You can't know what the long-term effects of this new type of vaccine are. Especially given people have to take it over and over again for to have any effectiveness, so negative effects could possibly accumulate. But it won't prevent catching COVID anyways. Like 5 of my friends and family recently got COVID over Christmas that were all vaccinated. The stats on case numbers bear this out: vaccinated are catching the Omicron strain. The vaccines can't stop this. Natural immunity works many times better than these vaccines and providing protection against infection anyways. This is how it will go, no matter how many boosters you take.
- buu700 5y ago
  What are you talking about? No one suggested that the vaccine would prevent infection 100% reliably, and I'm not sure why you think we have a better understanding of the long-term effects of covid than mRNA vaccines (which aren't the only type of vaccine available in the first place).
  - PKop 5y ago

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