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You are, unfortunately, incorrect, at least about the "young and healthy" part. Unvaccinated people of all ages are significantly more likely to be hospitalize

by ketzo 5y ago

You are, unfortunately, incorrect, at least about the "young and healthy" part. Unvaccinated people of all ages are significantly more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than vaccinated people of the same age group [1]. 12-34 year olds are 10 times more likely to be hospitalized. Even if the absolute numbers are very low for young and healthy people – even if that's 0.01% instead of 0.001% of cases – that is an absolutely unacceptable amount of people to be putting into hospital beds when they could just get a motherfucking shot instead. [1] Page 3 of https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/... Study published 3 days ago.

cm2187 5y ago
The risk of covid to healthy 12-34 is minuscule, less than the flu apparently. You can divide this risk by 10 but that will do nothing materially to the risk to this population nor to ICU usage.
- ketzo 5y ago
  > that will do nothing materially Tell me it's not material when you're waiting in a rural ER for six hours because one of their two ventilators is taken by an unvaccinated 19-year-old who went to three New Year's Eve parties. There would be a conversation to have here if getting the vaccine wasn't the easiest goddamn thing in the world. But it is. So there's not.
  - cm2187 5y ago
    We are talking about winning the lottery kind of tiny risks. Your 19yo could also be vaccinated. That’s also a plausible scenario. But both those scenarios are extremely unlikely.
ifyoubuildit 5y ago
I'd love to see a study like that breaking down the risks between seronaive and recovered people. They all seem to just talk about the unvaccinated as one monolithic group, but the difference between those with a prior infection and without is known to be huge. I've yet to see any convincing evidence that a prior infection isn't good enough, but I see plenty of people convinced that the recovered are selfish/evil/stupid if they aren't rushing out for a vaccine.

by ketzo 5y ago

cm2187 5y ago

The risk of covid to healthy 12-34 is minuscule, less than the flu apparently. You can divide this risk by 10 but that will do nothing materially to the risk to this population nor to ICU usage.

ketzo 5y ago
> that will do nothing materially Tell me it's not material when you're waiting in a rural ER for six hours because one of their two ventilators is taken by an unvaccinated 19-year-old who went to three New Year's Eve parties. There would be a conversation to have here if getting the vaccine wasn't the easiest goddamn thing in the world. But it is. So there's not.
- cm2187 5y ago
  We are talking about winning the lottery kind of tiny risks. Your 19yo could also be vaccinated. That’s also a plausible scenario. But both those scenarios are extremely unlikely.

ifyoubuildit 5y ago

I'd love to see a study like that breaking down the risks between seronaive and recovered people. They all seem to just talk about the unvaccinated as one monolithic group, but the difference between those with a prior infection and without is known to be huge. I've yet to see any convincing evidence that a prior infection isn't good enough, but I see plenty of people convinced that the recovered are selfish/evil/stupid if they aren't rushing out for a vaccine.