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The only miss information here is your comment. >the virus is still very dangerous to the unvaccinated According to gallup (which I hope we can agree is not s

The only miss information here is your comment. >the virus is still very dangerous to the unvaccinated According to gallup (which I hope we can agree is not some sort of alt-right outlet) the risk of an unvaccinated person needing to be hospitalized if they get covid is 0.89%. https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/354938/adults-estimates-covid-hospitalization-risk.aspx https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/354938/adults-estimat... That is insanely low. That is just the risk of hospitalization, the % of those that are hospitalized that actually die from (not with) covid is even lower, which is a key distinction that your Reuters article doesn't make. Most hospitals are required to test patients for covid (if they are admitted), even if they are being admitted for something else (like a broken leg) if they come back positive then they show up in the stats even if they exhibit no covid symptoms and require no to little treatment from the hospital for covid. The healthcare system is not remotely being overrunning by covid, it only appears that way because of these scary, missleading, numbers.

nwiswell 5y ago
All I can say is that Omicron is not significantly less dangerous. This is actually shaping up to be worse than the Delta surge. If you believe Delta was serious, then this is too. Take a look. https://i.imgur.com/o3DJfN2.png https://i.imgur.com/o3DJfN2.png https://i.imgur.com/g8tyRdQ.png https://i.imgur.com/g8tyRdQ.png https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/01/09/us/omicron-cities-cases-hospitals.html?s=08 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/01/09/us/omicron-ci...
- jdminhbg 5y ago
  These graphs are misleading because they do not accurately reflect the change in cases. Cases in the Omicron wave are probably closer to 10x the winter of 2021 than the 1.5x in those graphs, but testing sites have been overwhelmed and rapid tests are more widely available, leading most people to either test at home or simply give up. For reference to a Covid prevalence measurement that isn't sensitive to testing artifacts, check out the Boston wastewater analysis: https://www.mwra.com/biobot/biobotdata.htm https://www.mwra.com/biobot/biobotdata.htm
  - nwiswell 5y ago
    > For reference to a Covid prevalence measurement that isn't sensitive to testing artifacts, check out the Boston wastewater analysis: This would be confounded by the greater viral loads for Omicron, wouldn't it?
zimzam 5y ago
40 hospitals in NY state we’re just forced to halt elective surgeries: https://abc7ny.com/new-york-hospitals-stop-elective-surgeries-department-of-health-low-bed-capacity/11442206 https://abc7ny.com/new-york-hospitals-stop-elective-surgerie... That’s overrun in my book.

nwiswell 5y ago

All I can say is that Omicron is not significantly less dangerous. This is actually shaping up to be worse than the Delta surge. If you believe Delta was serious, then this is too. Take a look. https://i.imgur.com/o3DJfN2.png https://i.imgur.com/o3DJfN2.png https://i.imgur.com/g8tyRdQ.png https://i.imgur.com/g8tyRdQ.png https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/01/09/us/omicron-cities-cases-hospitals.html?s=08 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/01/09/us/omicron-ci...

jdminhbg 5y ago
These graphs are misleading because they do not accurately reflect the change in cases. Cases in the Omicron wave are probably closer to 10x the winter of 2021 than the 1.5x in those graphs, but testing sites have been overwhelmed and rapid tests are more widely available, leading most people to either test at home or simply give up. For reference to a Covid prevalence measurement that isn't sensitive to testing artifacts, check out the Boston wastewater analysis: https://www.mwra.com/biobot/biobotdata.htm https://www.mwra.com/biobot/biobotdata.htm
- nwiswell 5y ago
  > For reference to a Covid prevalence measurement that isn't sensitive to testing artifacts, check out the Boston wastewater analysis: This would be confounded by the greater viral loads for Omicron, wouldn't it?

zimzam 5y ago

40 hospitals in NY state we’re just forced to halt elective surgeries: https://abc7ny.com/new-york-hospitals-stop-elective-surgeries-department-of-health-low-bed-capacity/11442206 https://abc7ny.com/new-york-hospitals-stop-elective-surgerie... That’s overrun in my book.