> - What level of state-sponsored violence is justifiable to further reduce that risk? This is the line I'm responding to. ------ You know damn well that lib

> - What level of state-sponsored violence is justifiable to further reduce that risk? This is the line I'm responding to. ------ You know damn well that libertarians do this bullshit when playing with "use of force" language in these discussion. A fine is "government use of force" to a libertarian. I'd rather not get stuck in the weeds over such details. But you're trying to pin me from the other side, and I don't appreciate it.