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That's not true of the immunocompromised, the rare few who actually couldn't get the fully vaccine because of a reaction to the first dose, the elderly and othe

That's not true of the immunocompromised, the rare few who actually couldn't get the fully vaccine because of a reaction to the first dose, the elderly and others with co-morbidities they might not even know about. Those people, along with the unvaccinated, are still going to overwhelm the hospitals if everyone doesn't attempt to limit the spread with measures like masking and testing.

JSavageOne 5y ago
Why should everyone in society be forced to bend over backwards to accommodate elderly people or those with comorbidities who decide to go out in public? COVID-19 has an infection fatality rate of something like 0.20%. Let's move on from these draconian restrictions and get back to reality. The flu has been overwhelming hospitals since before COVID [1], governments and hospital systems have had 2+ years to deal with the supply-side of the healthcare equation here, at this point if they still haven't figured it out it's on them. [1] https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patients/ https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patie...
- mattnewton 5y ago
  I'm not saying we should lock everything down and stop going outside. I am saying COVID is still infectious and lethal enough to warrant small countermeasures like encouraging masking indoors and regular testing / quarantine if you have it to limit the spread. These are small, proportional measures to the danger I think.
fallingknife 5y ago
Flu is also dangerous to these people but we never wore masks. This is an edge case and it is the responsibility of these people to protect themselves.
- mattnewton 5y ago
  This is significantly more dangerous to significantly more people than the flu so the extra masking / testing is warranted for the time being. That being said, this is probably where we will end up, with a milder and endemic COVID that we treat like the flu.

JSavageOne 5y ago

Why should everyone in society be forced to bend over backwards to accommodate elderly people or those with comorbidities who decide to go out in public? COVID-19 has an infection fatality rate of something like 0.20%. Let's move on from these draconian restrictions and get back to reality. The flu has been overwhelming hospitals since before COVID [1], governments and hospital systems have had 2+ years to deal with the supply-side of the healthcare equation here, at this point if they still haven't figured it out it's on them. [1] https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patients/ https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patie...

mattnewton 5y ago
I'm not saying we should lock everything down and stop going outside. I am saying COVID is still infectious and lethal enough to warrant small countermeasures like encouraging masking indoors and regular testing / quarantine if you have it to limit the spread. These are small, proportional measures to the danger I think.

fallingknife 5y ago

Flu is also dangerous to these people but we never wore masks. This is an edge case and it is the responsibility of these people to protect themselves.

mattnewton 5y ago
This is significantly more dangerous to significantly more people than the flu so the extra masking / testing is warranted for the time being. That being said, this is probably where we will end up, with a milder and endemic COVID that we treat like the flu.