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Disagree. While the "we're working consciously" bit can be left out, you have to let the people you communicate with know that it's not just this Friday, it's E

by wy35 5y ago

Disagree. While the "we're working consciously" bit can be left out, you have to let the people you communicate with know that it's not just this Friday, it's EVERY Friday. Just saying "I'm out of the office today and will respond on Monday" implies it's a one-time thing.

pm215 5y ago
You only have to do that if you're in a situation where your correspondent expects same-day responses. Mostly you should try to avoid creating that expectation -- or where you do want to provide that level of service, eg for customer interactions, that sort of email should be going via some kind of role address or internal ticketing system so that it gets reliable rapid responses that don't depend on individual employees not happening to fall ill and so you can ensure cover during holidays or whatever. (I work a four day week personally, and I never set an out-of-office response.)
- kbenson 5y ago
  Not necessarily just for that. It's also useful for people knowing whether they send you something Thursday towards the end of the day that's somewhat time sensitive whether to expect/hope you'll get to it, or if that's something they shouldn't expect any more than sending it towards the end of the day Friday. It's useful in the same way as knowing when holidays are and not estimating when someone might get something done while including a Monday they will not be working. Not required, but useful.
  - bmhin 5y ago
    I feel like many or most places already have the "be cool late Friday" mindset. Emergencies or critical things can still happen, but if possible maybe don't schedule a long meeting end of day Friday. Don't ask for something that needs turn around after the morning as people already are going to likely be in a wrap-up mode. It always feels like a very implicit "can this wait till Monday?" attitude permeates the day. And it's not just being nice, splitting a task over a weekend can lead to things being forgotten or missed or just the context being lost. Hell, I've seen places operate more in a "be cool all of Friday, it's the pseudo-weekend". All that is a long way of saying that that group feeling now exists a whole day before and it's important to communicate that.
Cthulhu_ 5y ago
Plenty of people in my country - where part-time-by-choice work is normalized - is to set your message to "I don't work on Fridays".
sokoloff 5y ago
Why would that matter? If it comes up again next week, the person will get the same message. If I have a one-time interaction with you, all I need to know is that you're out today and back Monday.
- wy35 5y ago
  It helps parties coordinate in the future. For example, if I need X done by Friday, and I know Y company doesn't work on Fridays, I have a better idea of how much workload there is per day. It saves me from sending another email asking "hey, I know you weren't here on Friday, but is that every Friday or a one-time thing? And does that affect Joe from marketing and Sally from DevOps, or is it just you?"
sigzero 5y ago
No, they don't need to know your policy at all. They only need the "I am not here..." message regardless of how many times you use it.
- __MatrixMan__ 5y ago
  "when to expect me to be here" is often worth communicating. "Why" less so. Avoids confusion like: > I tried him last Friday, and the one before that, and the one before that. He's never available.
- wy35 5y ago
  IMO it is much better to be transparent and predictable. Makes things easier for everyone.
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by wy35 5y ago

pm215 5y ago

You only have to do that if you're in a situation where your correspondent expects same-day responses. Mostly you should try to avoid creating that expectation -- or where you do want to provide that level of service, eg for customer interactions, that sort of email should be going via some kind of role address or internal ticketing system so that it gets reliable rapid responses that don't depend on individual employees not happening to fall ill and so you can ensure cover during holidays or whatever. (I work a four day week personally, and I never set an out-of-office response.)

kbenson 5y ago
Not necessarily just for that. It's also useful for people knowing whether they send you something Thursday towards the end of the day that's somewhat time sensitive whether to expect/hope you'll get to it, or if that's something they shouldn't expect any more than sending it towards the end of the day Friday. It's useful in the same way as knowing when holidays are and not estimating when someone might get something done while including a Monday they will not be working. Not required, but useful.
- bmhin 5y ago
  I feel like many or most places already have the "be cool late Friday" mindset. Emergencies or critical things can still happen, but if possible maybe don't schedule a long meeting end of day Friday. Don't ask for something that needs turn around after the morning as people already are going to likely be in a wrap-up mode. It always feels like a very implicit "can this wait till Monday?" attitude permeates the day. And it's not just being nice, splitting a task over a weekend can lead to things being forgotten or missed or just the context being lost. Hell, I've seen places operate more in a "be cool all of Friday, it's the pseudo-weekend". All that is a long way of saying that that group feeling now exists a whole day before and it's important to communicate that.

Cthulhu_ 5y ago

Plenty of people in my country - where part-time-by-choice work is normalized - is to set your message to "I don't work on Fridays".

sokoloff 5y ago

Why would that matter? If it comes up again next week, the person will get the same message. If I have a one-time interaction with you, all I need to know is that you're out today and back Monday.

wy35 5y ago
It helps parties coordinate in the future. For example, if I need X done by Friday, and I know Y company doesn't work on Fridays, I have a better idea of how much workload there is per day. It saves me from sending another email asking "hey, I know you weren't here on Friday, but is that every Friday or a one-time thing? And does that affect Joe from marketing and Sally from DevOps, or is it just you?"

sigzero 5y ago

No, they don't need to know your policy at all. They only need the "I am not here..." message regardless of how many times you use it.

__MatrixMan__ 5y ago
"when to expect me to be here" is often worth communicating. "Why" less so. Avoids confusion like: > I tried him last Friday, and the one before that, and the one before that. He's never available.
wy35 5y ago
IMO it is much better to be transparent and predictable. Makes things easier for everyone.

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