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My guess is that this guy said “no” to the wrong person, and this is payback. I will also guess that this chief is probably on the ethically correct side of th

by csa 5y ago

My guess is that this guy said “no” to the wrong person, and this is payback. I will also guess that this chief is probably on the ethically correct side of the situation.

hutzlibu 5y ago
Do you have more information, than what is written in that article? Because I see your conclusion only as a vague possible hypothesis among many other options. And intelligence services are by default usually into very grey, if not dark areas of ethics. So all this might just as well be an internal power struggle of which the public will only get to view a very distorted picture, of what was actually going on.
- vintermann 5y ago
  Not really. He's charged with leaking to the media. There's only one story that's been recently leaked to the media: The one about helping NSA to spy on domestic and allied political leaders. Intelligence agencies can only wish they were able to distort the picture for the public reliably, and frequently mess things up. So the most likely explanation is the obvious, apparent one: He was shocked at the extent of the friendly spying, and leaked it to the media once it became clear it would be buried. The interesting thing is how Denmark will handle this.
  - goto11 5y ago
    > There's only one story that's been recently leaked to the media: The one about helping NSA to spy on domestic and allied political leaders. Actually several (apparently unrelated) stories have been leaked. One story about an intelligence operative who have been jailed for joining ISIS undercover, and one about a potential security threat from children of ISIS-supporters in camps in Syria. The one about NSA mad a bigger splash outside of Denmark, but the other cases where arguably more embarrassing for the Danish government.
- csa 5y ago
  > Do you have more information, than what is written in that article? No specifics, and I doubt that there will ever be any more unclassified specifics. That said, this is SOP for some sectors of the world. > Because I see your conclusion only as a vague possible hypothesis among many other options. Sure. That is probably how it will remain. > And intelligence services are by default usually into very grey, if not dark areas of ethics. Yep. > So all this might just as well be an internal power struggle of which the public will only get to view a very distorted picture, of what was actually going on. Yep.
beebeepka 5y ago
I was going to say "that's what you get" which would be pretty much the same. An interesting case indeed. I hope more info surfaces. We know things are bad, question is in what exact ways. Maybe something of substance will trickle down to us mortals.

by csa 5y ago

My guess is that this guy said “no” to the wrong person, and this is payback. I will also guess that this chief is probably on the ethically correct side of the situation.

hutzlibu 5y ago

Do you have more information, than what is written in that article? Because I see your conclusion only as a vague possible hypothesis among many other options. And intelligence services are by default usually into very grey, if not dark areas of ethics. So all this might just as well be an internal power struggle of which the public will only get to view a very distorted picture, of what was actually going on.

vintermann 5y ago
Not really. He's charged with leaking to the media. There's only one story that's been recently leaked to the media: The one about helping NSA to spy on domestic and allied political leaders. Intelligence agencies can only wish they were able to distort the picture for the public reliably, and frequently mess things up. So the most likely explanation is the obvious, apparent one: He was shocked at the extent of the friendly spying, and leaked it to the media once it became clear it would be buried. The interesting thing is how Denmark will handle this.
- goto11 5y ago
  > There's only one story that's been recently leaked to the media: The one about helping NSA to spy on domestic and allied political leaders. Actually several (apparently unrelated) stories have been leaked. One story about an intelligence operative who have been jailed for joining ISIS undercover, and one about a potential security threat from children of ISIS-supporters in camps in Syria. The one about NSA mad a bigger splash outside of Denmark, but the other cases where arguably more embarrassing for the Danish government.
csa 5y ago
> Do you have more information, than what is written in that article? No specifics, and I doubt that there will ever be any more unclassified specifics. That said, this is SOP for some sectors of the world. > Because I see your conclusion only as a vague possible hypothesis among many other options. Sure. That is probably how it will remain. > And intelligence services are by default usually into very grey, if not dark areas of ethics. Yep. > So all this might just as well be an internal power struggle of which the public will only get to view a very distorted picture, of what was actually going on. Yep.

beebeepka 5y ago

I was going to say "that's what you get" which would be pretty much the same. An interesting case indeed. I hope more info surfaces. We know things are bad, question is in what exact ways. Maybe something of substance will trickle down to us mortals.