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https://www1.wdr.de/daserste/monitor/sendungen/gefaehrliche-intubation-100.html https://www1.wdr.de/daserste/monitor/sendungen/gefaehrliche-... https://www.wel

https://www1.wdr.de/daserste/monitor/sendungen/gefaehrliche-intubation-100.html https://www1.wdr.de/daserste/monitor/sendungen/gefaehrliche-... https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article207311157/Corona-Mit-kuenstlicher-Beatmung-wird-richtig-viel-Geld-gemacht.html https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article207311157/Cor... also check interviews of Prof. Klaus Stöhr - he mentions that regularly. > A lot of doctors now offer visits via video chat, if you need a sick leave for work it's often enough just to call the doctor and they send you the papers. they need my physical HI card every quarter ... > Overall, Germany still has a pretty good record on keeping people alive while never using really hard measures. What we really could use though is a more civil communication. Deaths per infections is relatively high compared to other EU countries. Again, check Prof. Stöhr interviews.

tonyjstark 5y ago
The WDR link discusses different opinions on intubation as well as the fincial incentives. It even mentions that guidelines got adjusted which led to less invasive care. The second link is very 'Welt'-typical, at first using almost tabloid language only to then not delivering on the promise. The interviewee goes into the topic of hospitals having the wrong financial incentives for optimizing the duration of intubation but doesn't accuse a systemic wrong-doing or patient harming. Fair enough, the system is not perfect but it's far from "systematic hospitalization where ambulant treatment would be possible and recommended". Not sure about Prof. Stöhr, I read some of his criticism on how the pandemic is handled regarding schools, the idea of a mandatory vaccine and things like country wide measures vs. more local adjusted measures. I didn't hear him saying there is a _systemic_ problem of wrongly administered intensive care just to make money.

tonyjstark 5y ago

The WDR link discusses different opinions on intubation as well as the fincial incentives. It even mentions that guidelines got adjusted which led to less invasive care. The second link is very 'Welt'-typical, at first using almost tabloid language only to then not delivering on the promise. The interviewee goes into the topic of hospitals having the wrong financial incentives for optimizing the duration of intubation but doesn't accuse a systemic wrong-doing or patient harming. Fair enough, the system is not perfect but it's far from "systematic hospitalization where ambulant treatment would be possible and recommended". Not sure about Prof. Stöhr, I read some of his criticism on how the pandemic is handled regarding schools, the idea of a mandatory vaccine and things like country wide measures vs. more local adjusted measures. I didn't hear him saying there is a _systemic_ problem of wrongly administered intensive care just to make money.