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Being consulted on tools you’ll use is reasonable- perhaps being expected to be on the call is a bit much. I think the company is a little disorganized- perhap

Being consulted on tools you’ll use is reasonable- perhaps being expected to be on the call is a bit much. I think the company is a little disorganized- perhaps no professional managers for the size of the company. That said, I think you’re overthinking it and to me you come off a little as a high maintenance employee.

crate_barre 5y ago
you come off a little as a high maintenance employee. They are obviously excited to have you and are onboarding you quickly. For every story like this, there’s another where someone doesn’t even get a laptop the first week, or they don’t even have time to invite the person to meetings (sometimes they don’t have a desk, a keycard, etc). The vendor calls might need to happen sooner to meet budget deadlines, who knows? You could easily say you are on vacation but would be happy to listen in via phone, which seems like a fine compromise for both sides.
- willcipriano 5y ago
  > budget deadlines Aren't the people who were slow on the hire also the people who set the budget deadlines?
flippinburgers 5y ago
High maintenance? More like self respecting.
- pkrotich 5y ago
  It's obvious OP is getting onboarded by a company with no or a borked onboarding process - I get that it's red flag but the entire writeup came off whiny to me. I realize "high maintenance" has a negative connotation... but it has nothing to do with self respect. Admittedly it's not a popular view but that was my honest feedback.
brailsafe 5y ago
I think unless you've been very fortunate about work experiences, there is a huge portion of the population that has very good reason to be sus about a company they've just been hired at. I can see how it might sound whiny or entitled, but I think you should never trust a company.
Unbeliever69 5y ago
I have managed people for decades and I would never disrespect a new hire by asking them to work before their start date. I say huge red flag.
- pkrotich 5y ago
  I absolutely agree.

crate_barre 5y ago

you come off a little as a high maintenance employee. They are obviously excited to have you and are onboarding you quickly. For every story like this, there’s another where someone doesn’t even get a laptop the first week, or they don’t even have time to invite the person to meetings (sometimes they don’t have a desk, a keycard, etc). The vendor calls might need to happen sooner to meet budget deadlines, who knows? You could easily say you are on vacation but would be happy to listen in via phone, which seems like a fine compromise for both sides.

willcipriano 5y ago
> budget deadlines Aren't the people who were slow on the hire also the people who set the budget deadlines?

flippinburgers 5y ago

High maintenance? More like self respecting.

pkrotich 5y ago
It's obvious OP is getting onboarded by a company with no or a borked onboarding process - I get that it's red flag but the entire writeup came off whiny to me. I realize "high maintenance" has a negative connotation... but it has nothing to do with self respect. Admittedly it's not a popular view but that was my honest feedback.

brailsafe 5y ago

I think unless you've been very fortunate about work experiences, there is a huge portion of the population that has very good reason to be sus about a company they've just been hired at. I can see how it might sound whiny or entitled, but I think you should never trust a company.

Unbeliever69 5y ago

I have managed people for decades and I would never disrespect a new hire by asking them to work before their start date. I say huge red flag.

pkrotich 5y ago
I absolutely agree.