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A war crime? For which ongoing war?

by dudul 5y ago

Tsiklon 5y ago
I believe they meant to express the idea that such a scenario is beyond morally reprehensible, so as to liken it morally to a war crime.
- johnchristopher 5y ago
  In her head it's more like "these people are fighting the state and are enemy of the state and its citizens".
johnchristopher 5y ago
The one on Covid. See Macron last year's speech https://www.bbc.com/news/av/51917380 https://www.bbc.com/news/av/51917380 Of course my mom is not asking for a war tribunal to prosecute people. She's talking about the gravity of the facts.
- dudul 5y ago
  This is stupid and insulting for people who experienced a true war. Does she know what wartime is like? Because I do and Ican tell you this has nothing to do with what we have right now.
  - johnchristopher 5y ago
    > This is stupid and insulting for people who experienced a true war. Does she know what wartime is like? Because I do and Ican tell you this has nothing to do with what we have right now. What's stupid is your insistence on trying to imply that a remark she made about the gravity of some acts is the same as her saying it's wartime. And for what it's worth, yes she actually does know what wartime is. I wasn't aware it was a requirement to be allowed to express one's concerns about the behavior of some people though and to relate it to despicable behaviors she saw first hand. This holier-thanthou attitude is very well misplaced. It's also significant you choose to single her out on this and say nothing of Macron who made a war time speech. And Macron has way more influence than my mom.
    - dudul 5y ago
      Words mean things. War crimes are only committed during a war, by definition. Just call it criminal if you want, but "war crime" is inappropriate. As for macron he is just like most politicians, he uses this idiotic and misplaced war rethoric to fool people and make it easier to suspend rights and liberties.
      - johnchristopher 5y ago
        > Words mean things. War crimes are only committed during a war, by definition. Just call it criminal if you want, but "war crime" is inappropriate. Yes, words mean things. But people use words with variations on their meanings to put emphasis or for comical effects or for anything else every day and that's fine. That's what language is for. My mom thinks it's worse than a criminal act and speaks the words "war crimes" ? Good, that captures and convey her feelings better. You may not like it but people do that all the time and they also make analogies that aren't 100% logical 1-1 mappings to what they are trying to explain. Better get used to it and keep this word definition rhetoric tactics for people who wants to argue on this level.

A war crime? For which ongoing war?

by dudul 5y ago

A war crime? For which ongoing war?

I believe they meant to express the idea that such a scenario is beyond morally reprehensible, so as to liken it morally to a war crime.

johnchristopher 5y ago
In her head it's more like "these people are fighting the state and are enemy of the state and its citizens".

johnchristopher 5y ago

The one on Covid. See Macron last year's speech https://www.bbc.com/news/av/51917380 https://www.bbc.com/news/av/51917380 Of course my mom is not asking for a war tribunal to prosecute people. She's talking about the gravity of the facts.

dudul 5y ago
This is stupid and insulting for people who experienced a true war. Does she know what wartime is like? Because I do and Ican tell you this has nothing to do with what we have right now.
- johnchristopher 5y ago
  > This is stupid and insulting for people who experienced a true war. Does she know what wartime is like? Because I do and Ican tell you this has nothing to do with what we have right now. What's stupid is your insistence on trying to imply that a remark she made about the gravity of some acts is the same as her saying it's wartime. And for what it's worth, yes she actually does know what wartime is. I wasn't aware it was a requirement to be allowed to express one's concerns about the behavior of some people though and to relate it to despicable behaviors she saw first hand. This holier-thanthou attitude is very well misplaced. It's also significant you choose to single her out on this and say nothing of Macron who made a war time speech. And Macron has way more influence than my mom.
  - dudul 5y ago
    Words mean things. War crimes are only committed during a war, by definition. Just call it criminal if you want, but "war crime" is inappropriate. As for macron he is just like most politicians, he uses this idiotic and misplaced war rethoric to fool people and make it easier to suspend rights and liberties.
    - johnchristopher 5y ago
      > Words mean things. War crimes are only committed during a war, by definition. Just call it criminal if you want, but "war crime" is inappropriate. Yes, words mean things. But people use words with variations on their meanings to put emphasis or for comical effects or for anything else every day and that's fine. That's what language is for. My mom thinks it's worse than a criminal act and speaks the words "war crimes" ? Good, that captures and convey her feelings better. You may not like it but people do that all the time and they also make analogies that aren't 100% logical 1-1 mappings to what they are trying to explain. Better get used to it and keep this word definition rhetoric tactics for people who wants to argue on this level.