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This is a sarcastic post obviously, but I want to know how China gets away with this lies and why a site like worldometer would post this as facts.

wand3r 5y ago
> why a site like worldometer would post this as facts. I love worldometers. What would you expect them to do? They aggregate official stats. I don’t expect them to use a statistical model or something, I want the real reported numbers. The only thing they could really do in my opinion is put an asterisk on the numbers that are wildly unbelievable with a small disclaimer or something. I don’t check the Chinese stats there so maybe they have done this already? Other than that, what would you expect them to do? They can’t have country specific heuristics and different methodologies even if we “know” the count is wrong.
otherme123 5y ago
Why wouldn't they? Groups more important than worldodometer pledged to China shenanigans. I would do exactly the same: publish the official data and let the user deduce that it's total bullshit. That damages the China image ever more. The past year we were on the brink of buying some lab equipment from a chinese seller, but the numbers were so suspiciously good and their guarantees so thin (in case of underperforming) that we end up buying from a local seller at twice the price. They lie by default and it damages in the long run.
cxr 5y ago
> This is a sarcastic post obviously Well, stop. You also submitted an editorialized title. Don't do that, either.
kunagi7 5y ago
Well, Worldometer just shows the official data. They can hide the fact that North Korea has no data at all but China is way to big to do it. If the official data is a plain lie there's nothing they can do. If they put a banner warning about it they could end up blocked by the Chinese Firewall, and with a massive DDOS attack against them from a random offended Chinese service.
iqanq 5y ago
They post every country data as facts, but they don't do any fact checking themselves. It's not like I believe the western data that much either.

wand3r 5y ago

> why a site like worldometer would post this as facts. I love worldometers. What would you expect them to do? They aggregate official stats. I don’t expect them to use a statistical model or something, I want the real reported numbers. The only thing they could really do in my opinion is put an asterisk on the numbers that are wildly unbelievable with a small disclaimer or something. I don’t check the Chinese stats there so maybe they have done this already? Other than that, what would you expect them to do? They can’t have country specific heuristics and different methodologies even if we “know” the count is wrong.

otherme123 5y ago

Why wouldn't they? Groups more important than worldodometer pledged to China shenanigans. I would do exactly the same: publish the official data and let the user deduce that it's total bullshit. That damages the China image ever more. The past year we were on the brink of buying some lab equipment from a chinese seller, but the numbers were so suspiciously good and their guarantees so thin (in case of underperforming) that we end up buying from a local seller at twice the price. They lie by default and it damages in the long run.

cxr 5y ago

> This is a sarcastic post obviously Well, stop. You also submitted an editorialized title. Don't do that, either.

kunagi7 5y ago

Well, Worldometer just shows the official data. They can hide the fact that North Korea has no data at all but China is way to big to do it. If the official data is a plain lie there's nothing they can do. If they put a banner warning about it they could end up blocked by the Chinese Firewall, and with a massive DDOS attack against them from a random offended Chinese service.

iqanq 5y ago

They post every country data as facts, but they don't do any fact checking themselves. It's not like I believe the western data that much either.