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"upgrading the display, CPU, disk, RAM, fan, battery it's a bit click-baity to say you've gone back to a 2012 ThinkPad - but interesting read non the less." Th

by xxs 5y ago

"upgrading the display, CPU, disk, RAM, fan, battery it's a bit click-baity to say you've gone back to a 2012 ThinkPad - but interesting read non the less." That's the good part - it's possible, and it's serviceable. My spouse uses a 10y (almost 11y) laptop, it has pretty much everything changed & upgraded. CPU, RAM, keyboard, CD->SSD, HDD->SSD, battery, fan, wifi 801.1 b/g -> ac+bluetooth. The discrete GPU is not replaceable, of course.

bjarneh 5y ago
> That's the good part - it's possible, and it's serviceable. Agreed. The way things are constructed now (cell phones are of course 10 times worse), where everything is glued in place in order to break if anyone tries to replace them are terrible. The tinker tutorials on youtube seem to be more about which temperature different glue melts at, and which temperature the parts glued get destroyed at; then anything else. My next laptop will probably be a https://frame.work https://frame.work laptop for that very reason.
tfandango 5y ago
Might just be the current supply chain woes but I have a relatively recent X1 Yoga (Gen 1) and the fan went out. Had to buy a Chinese one on ebay to replace it since Lenovo did not have the part anymore. I kind of expected it to be easy to acquire an official part but they told me to look on ebay. The Chinese one works fine though.
- bjarneh 5y ago
  That's nuts. Is that the official policy? Here in Norway, a laptop would have a 5 year "reklamasjon" (not 100% sure what that translates to in English). Perhaps "forced warranty" would be my best translation. It basically means that the product is expected to last for at least 5 years, and if it doesn't - the seller has to fix it, or give you your money back. Some products have a 2 year "reklamasjon" while others have 5; it's sometimes a bit surprising which products get 2 and 5 years. Cellphones have 5 for instance, which seems strange given their (ab)use. Companies cannot opt out of this.
  - tfandango 5y ago
    I think this laptop is likely over 5 years old, though I'd expect to be able to order 10 year old parts on thinkpads, but perhaps that is not cost effective since most companies would replace machines before that. In the US I believe it came with 1 or 2 years warranty against defect. I had purchased an additional 2 year warranty for a total of 4 years. I had the battery and cover replaced when it cracked but in the end I decided it was a waste if I could get my hands on the parts since these are easy enough to repair.
- xxs 5y ago
  nothing wrong w/ the off-shore ones (with regard to fans), they are likely the OEM anyways. Although I'd think you had replaced the entire cooling solution, heatpipes and all.
  - tfandango 5y ago
    That is correct, the fan is welded to the heatpipe.

by xxs 5y ago

bjarneh 5y ago

> That's the good part - it's possible, and it's serviceable. Agreed. The way things are constructed now (cell phones are of course 10 times worse), where everything is glued in place in order to break if anyone tries to replace them are terrible. The tinker tutorials on youtube seem to be more about which temperature different glue melts at, and which temperature the parts glued get destroyed at; then anything else. My next laptop will probably be a https://frame.work https://frame.work laptop for that very reason.

tfandango 5y ago

Might just be the current supply chain woes but I have a relatively recent X1 Yoga (Gen 1) and the fan went out. Had to buy a Chinese one on ebay to replace it since Lenovo did not have the part anymore. I kind of expected it to be easy to acquire an official part but they told me to look on ebay. The Chinese one works fine though.

bjarneh 5y ago
That's nuts. Is that the official policy? Here in Norway, a laptop would have a 5 year "reklamasjon" (not 100% sure what that translates to in English). Perhaps "forced warranty" would be my best translation. It basically means that the product is expected to last for at least 5 years, and if it doesn't - the seller has to fix it, or give you your money back. Some products have a 2 year "reklamasjon" while others have 5; it's sometimes a bit surprising which products get 2 and 5 years. Cellphones have 5 for instance, which seems strange given their (ab)use. Companies cannot opt out of this.
- tfandango 5y ago
  I think this laptop is likely over 5 years old, though I'd expect to be able to order 10 year old parts on thinkpads, but perhaps that is not cost effective since most companies would replace machines before that. In the US I believe it came with 1 or 2 years warranty against defect. I had purchased an additional 2 year warranty for a total of 4 years. I had the battery and cover replaced when it cracked but in the end I decided it was a waste if I could get my hands on the parts since these are easy enough to repair.
xxs 5y ago
nothing wrong w/ the off-shore ones (with regard to fans), they are likely the OEM anyways. Although I'd think you had replaced the entire cooling solution, heatpipes and all.
- tfandango 5y ago
  That is correct, the fan is welded to the heatpipe.