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For those who didn’t grow up in MS-DOS, “debug” was the absurdly limited assembler that shipped with the operating system, and was the only development tool ava

by pavlov 5y ago

For those who didn’t grow up in MS-DOS, “debug” was the absurdly limited assembler that shipped with the operating system, and was the only development tool available on a fresh install (apart from BASIC).

kingcharles 5y ago
"debug" was truly the devil's spawn. Yet, it was always there. You always needed it at the time you had no other tool available, so you had to struggle through. Therapy was mandatory after any use of that utility. Looks like Windows XP was the last version to ship with it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debug_(command) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debug_(command) (not only does it not support x64, but it never even supported 32-bit from the looks of it!)
- boondaburrah 5y ago
  I used to use debug on win2k PCs in my school to futz with the VGA card as a kid. Good times.
- vikingerik 5y ago
  I used debug to write some moderately serious (~5k lines of code) toy programs in assembly. It worked. Labeling it with insults is historical revisionism; it was part of the basic toolkit for how you hacked around on DOS computers of the time. I learned a ton about low-level computer operations from using debug. It's more than an assembler, it's also a runtime environment with breakpoints and a debugger, and a hex editor. It really manipulates everything going on with the computer at a byte-by-byte level. I wouldn't have learned all that quite the same way from any "real" tools like MASM or the Norton debugger.
timonoko 5y ago
I used Debug as a real assembler. List of symbols was directed to debug and resulting code was executed directly. "(defun fib2 ..." is an example what kind assembly code was needed. It is a recursive fibonacci written in assembly. https://github.com/timonoko/nokolisp_addons/blob/master/assembly.lsp https://github.com/timonoko/nokolisp_addons/blob/master/asse...

by pavlov 5y ago

kingcharles 5y ago

"debug" was truly the devil's spawn. Yet, it was always there. You always needed it at the time you had no other tool available, so you had to struggle through. Therapy was mandatory after any use of that utility. Looks like Windows XP was the last version to ship with it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debug_(command) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debug_(command) (not only does it not support x64, but it never even supported 32-bit from the looks of it!)

boondaburrah 5y ago
I used to use debug on win2k PCs in my school to futz with the VGA card as a kid. Good times.
vikingerik 5y ago
I used debug to write some moderately serious (~5k lines of code) toy programs in assembly. It worked. Labeling it with insults is historical revisionism; it was part of the basic toolkit for how you hacked around on DOS computers of the time. I learned a ton about low-level computer operations from using debug. It's more than an assembler, it's also a runtime environment with breakpoints and a debugger, and a hex editor. It really manipulates everything going on with the computer at a byte-by-byte level. I wouldn't have learned all that quite the same way from any "real" tools like MASM or the Norton debugger.

timonoko 5y ago

I used Debug as a real assembler. List of symbols was directed to debug and resulting code was executed directly. "(defun fib2 ..." is an example what kind assembly code was needed. It is a recursive fibonacci written in assembly. https://github.com/timonoko/nokolisp_addons/blob/master/assembly.lsp https://github.com/timonoko/nokolisp_addons/blob/master/asse...