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<< In time I think these societal and religious pressures will be seen as negatives if the mother is outside of those conformist pressures, which will further w
by A4ET8a8uTh0 5y ago
<< In time I think these societal and religious pressures will be seen as negatives if the mother is outside of those conformist pressures, which will further weaken the conformist grip on society.
I don't see that happening. For example, circumcision has been normalized ( in US at least ) so there is not even a need for a real pressure. And this is just one of the more interesting examples of religious dogma pervading life of non-religious individuals.
- funstuff007 5y agoIt does correlate with lower incidence of STI later in life.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 5y agoSure. Using the same logic we can say that FGM[1] reduces chances of cancer in the removed parts. It is genuinely odd argument to make that you get less chance of a disease in an organ when you remove an organ or part thereof. [1]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-47131052 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-47131052
- DiffEq 5y agoI know two people that had to get circumcised when they were older because of issues of the foreskin restricting urinating. Both cursed their parents for not having circumcised them when they were babies.
- chana_masala 5y ago
- A4ET8a8uTh0 5y agoI am responding in good faith. It is possible that there is a genetic component, but isn't prevalence of paraphimosis about 1%[1] for males over 16. Some would say circumcision for such a small gain is not the best trade-off. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK459233/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK459233/
- DiffEq 5y agoI don't necessarily disagree with you. I just know the misery these two older friends of mine went through...just to give another perspective. It makes sense though that there could be a genetic disposition.
- psyc 5y agoI’m trying to imagine modern medicine converging on circumcision as a best practice, in the absence of its ritual origins, and in the absence of cosmetic concerns. But I’m still convinced it’s a retcon.
- chana_masala 5y agoWhich aspect is a retcon? I am not sure if you're taking the pro or con position
- watwut 5y agoI dont see medicine converging at that. Instead, in west, it is being seen as American medical oddity no one cares about.
- Terry_Roll 5y agoFGM is mainly an anti-sex thing, before modern contraceptives, this conformist behaviour was used to keep population levels down by making sex painful, but now we have chemicals that can do it, so its not really required now.
- Terry_Roll 5y agoI recognise aspects of religious practices was a way to keep followers healthy in the absence of what we would call modern medicine and some of the practices are environmentally driven to some degree. Circumcision is one, dusty desert like locations had limited water, making it harder to wash regularly but in hot desert like area's one's libido will increase, so its the result of trying to reduce the spread of disease. The irony is that the Langerhan cells are removed which plays a part in the immune system response, but it might be considered an attack vector for at least the HIV virus to enter the body according to other reports. What these reports show is even the medical profession are split on whose theory is correct. I've always been informed the main reason in the past has been because blokes are lazy and didnt wash enough and some religions were so anti-sex it was a way of reducing other problems with the foreskin that can arise.