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> It was deliberate sabotage, done with full knowledge that it would cause major damage. That's how protesting often works. Deliberately interfering in normal
by thr0wawayf00 5y ago
> It was deliberate sabotage, done with full knowledge that it would cause major damage.
That's how protesting often works. Deliberately interfering in normal affairs is a very common protest tactic. Just look at the interstate shutdowns after the George Floyd killing, or going back to Rosa Parks and the Montgomery bus boycott, worker strikes, etc. etc. That's exactly how protest works.
Forcing application code to print statements like "LIBERTY LIBERTY LIBERTY" is very, very different than trying to infiltrate commercial systems and exfiltrate sensitive data.
- zamadatix 5y agoProtesting in that manner isn't without consequence even if the thing being protested for is right or something else is worse to do. "It was in protest" is a reasoning not an absolution.
- pritambaral 5y agoAnd who decides the consequences? Who executes the sentence? What makes GitHub the judge, jury, and executioner?
- zamadatix 5y agoThe entity doing the hosting gets to decide what it wants to host. In this case that is GitHub. For the other consequences it depends on the action, where it took place, and what it resulted in to find who assigns and administers the consequences.
- thr0wawayf00 5y agoI'm not arguing that there should be no consequences for what this person did. I am questioning the ability for an application like Github to essentially "cancel" someone like this whenever they feel like it.
- zamadatix 5y agoSomeone else no longer providing his code hosting being equivalent to being "canceled" aside what is the alternative to the hoster being able to chose what is hosted/spread for others?
- viro 5y agoMinus my Hoobs setup was literally knocked offline over that stupid ass stunt. Care to describe to me how that isn't a violation of the CFAA? The fact that you think that crashing RANDOM servers that you DONT know what they do is an ok form of protest is INSANE
- thr0wawayf00 5y agoIs it not equally crazy that a single random person has the ability to make such an impact on so many systems? That's exactly what FOSS facilitates here. Again, I wouldn't do what this person did, but situations like this are a byproduct of FOSS.
- google234123 5y agoHave you ever read an open source license? Most of them have something like this clause “ THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR..” If you pull random unverified code from the internet don’t be surprised when something breaks.
- ydlr 5y agoHow could any production servers be knocked offline by this. Certainly no one would be so careless as to deploy completely untested third-party code?
- alar44 5y agoThe fact that you think you can just run whatever code not written by you on your servers is insane. The fact that you think protest should be able to be ignored is insane. The whole point of protest is disruption.