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The maintainer seems a few steps beyond unwell. Seems like he was planning a terrorist act of some sort. Even if one is mentally unwell, I would not first descr

The maintainer seems a few steps beyond unwell. Seems like he was planning a terrorist act of some sort. Even if one is mentally unwell, I would not first describe them that way should they choose to premeditate harm against others. If you're building bombs, you're almost certainly at that point. At the very least, the maintainer is unstable if not actively malicious and seeking to cause harm however he can.

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pverghese 5y ago
Let's not start claiming people are planning terrorist acts without any proof. Those claims are extremely hard to get rid of, especially on the internet.
- josephcsible 5y ago
  Here's the proof: https://abc7ny.com/suspicious-package-queens-astoria-fire/6425363/ https://abc7ny.com/suspicious-package-queens-astoria-fire/64... Another article: https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/at-a-glance/9-21-20 https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/at-a-glance/9-21-20
  - barsonme 5y ago
    All that proves is he’s got an interest in explosives. Believe it or not, explosives are a legitimate hobby for some folks. Unless there is other evidence, you’re just blindly speculating as to his intent.
    - qaq 5y ago
      It's fine to speculate given a certain pattern of behavior
      - a3w 5y ago
        No, it is not. Our brains process speculation as facts. This thread and press coverage is just reputation damage. Most newspaper articles are not even 90 % true, so rampant theories go floating until innocent some people are burned for life.
        qaq 5y ago
        you do realize that by doing what he did he didn't just burn greedy F500 companies that didn't have ci/cd setup properly, but non-profits and other entities that are not really resourced to deal with type of stuff.
burtonator 5y ago
> I would not first describe them that way should they choose to premeditate harm against others. That's why a judge often has to determine if the person is mentally ill or just a criminal. There are plenty of situations where someone has hurt other people and they've been literally insane. If your insanity causes you to believe that someone is doing horrible things like murdering children you might decide to do them harm, thinking you're the good guy. In reality you have paranoid schizophrenia or a litany of other mental health issues. It's not cut and dry :-/
- noah_buddy 5y ago
  I think it's very nearly a difference without meaning here. If you commit mass violence out of insanity, you're probably going to be in a mental hospital for the rest of your life. Functionally akin to a lifetime prison sentence in that in both cases the perpetrator is removed from society forever. It's not that I have no empathy for the mentally unwell, it's just that when your illness begins to cause actions that will harm the world around you, you're defined in terms of those acts as well as your illness. A mentally unwell person who kills someone is still a killer (I purposely stay away from murder as I do not know law or that murder can be applied to those who are not convicted for reasons of insanity).

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pverghese 5y ago

Let's not start claiming people are planning terrorist acts without any proof. Those claims are extremely hard to get rid of, especially on the internet.

josephcsible 5y ago
Here's the proof: https://abc7ny.com/suspicious-package-queens-astoria-fire/6425363/ https://abc7ny.com/suspicious-package-queens-astoria-fire/64... Another article: https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/at-a-glance/9-21-20 https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/at-a-glance/9-21-20
- barsonme 5y ago
  All that proves is he’s got an interest in explosives. Believe it or not, explosives are a legitimate hobby for some folks. Unless there is other evidence, you’re just blindly speculating as to his intent.
  - qaq 5y ago
    It's fine to speculate given a certain pattern of behavior
    - a3w 5y ago
      No, it is not. Our brains process speculation as facts. This thread and press coverage is just reputation damage. Most newspaper articles are not even 90 % true, so rampant theories go floating until innocent some people are burned for life.
      - qaq 5y ago
        you do realize that by doing what he did he didn't just burn greedy F500 companies that didn't have ci/cd setup properly, but non-profits and other entities that are not really resourced to deal with type of stuff.

burtonator 5y ago

> I would not first describe them that way should they choose to premeditate harm against others. That's why a judge often has to determine if the person is mentally ill or just a criminal. There are plenty of situations where someone has hurt other people and they've been literally insane. If your insanity causes you to believe that someone is doing horrible things like murdering children you might decide to do them harm, thinking you're the good guy. In reality you have paranoid schizophrenia or a litany of other mental health issues. It's not cut and dry :-/

noah_buddy 5y ago
I think it's very nearly a difference without meaning here. If you commit mass violence out of insanity, you're probably going to be in a mental hospital for the rest of your life. Functionally akin to a lifetime prison sentence in that in both cases the perpetrator is removed from society forever. It's not that I have no empathy for the mentally unwell, it's just that when your illness begins to cause actions that will harm the world around you, you're defined in terms of those acts as well as your illness. A mentally unwell person who kills someone is still a killer (I purposely stay away from murder as I do not know law or that murder can be applied to those who are not convicted for reasons of insanity).