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Until we have effective behavior-altering treatments that 'correct' people we have to insist on personal responsibility so that they can be put in prison.
by cblconfederate 5y ago
Until we have effective behavior-altering treatments that 'correct' people we have to insist on personal responsibility so that they can be put in prison.
- adjkant 5y agoI think you've missed a step jumping straight to prison. If you accept a lack of free will, the solution does not need to immediately jump there but rather to finding a way that is fair to all to prevent the bad behavior thing from affecting others negatively while not locking someone up in a cage. There are many lines in between and some penal systems have adapted, but the US is way far behind there. The optimization is no longer about revenge / punishment but about altering the scenario of the world to make everyone work together better. Sometimes people need to be fully separated from society, but not often. I think we do have effective behavior altering treatments, but they just aren't drugs and take time. But it's not a straight line from "it takes time to help people and its unreliable" to "we're giving up on finding a way for society to work with the people who did not choose what they are".
- guerrilla 5y agoWe need to not only correct people but environments. The people themselves only contain half the conditions that lead to their behavior, their environments contain the other half.