>>how do you get that? How do you pay for it? Taxes. There are any number of Public Finance theories that do not require individuals to pay taxes, when talking

>>how do you get that? How do you pay for it? Taxes. There are any number of Public Finance theories that do not require individuals to pay taxes, when talking about taxes most infer income based taxation, there are many ways to fund a limited "night watchmen" state that do not involve income based taxation, and some that do not even involve taxation at all. >>But that's not all, what about all the public infrastructure like roads, without which you cannot have a functioning society? ahh the who will build the roads meme... I can assure you a functioning society with roads is possible with out the government funding said roads. Infact based on the condition of most roads I would much rather someone else take that over. Roads are often given the LEAST resources by government because it is the lever government always pull to justify more taxes, thus they will NEVER actual fully maintain the roads because then they would lose their on going coercion to extract every growing amounts of money from the public. I would encourage you to really look at where the money in your local government goes, see what percent is taken up by road maintenance. I think the results of your inquiry would be illuminating >who decides on what is more important, the police or the fire department? I would prefer those services be billed monthly via user fees just like my water, sewer, trash, and even storm drainage is by the local government. >>If they are good enough to be members of the society I never said they should not have the right to vote in local elections, you made that assumption based on me challenging your position on using taxation as rational for who has or does not have the right to vote.