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> 12K is a joke to them Not that I disagree, but I got the sense from the post that upwork has suddenly detected a lot of this exact same scam from a lot of cl

• akudha 5y ago
  Even if that is the case, that is still Upwork’s problem. Not the freelancer’s problem.
  • graderjs 5y ago
    I know--but that kind of one-sidedness is the same thing that we are accusing Upwork of doing, by making it just the freelancer's problem. I'm not defending them, and I don't know the facts, I'm just saying we should maintain a wholistic perspective about this--it makes our moral stance more credible. And it's better--it makes us better people. Because it's not just like, "well it's good for me, screw you" -- it's: "well it's the right thing to do." I think we need ethics to guide use, as well. In business especially. Even in the small ways that many of us are in business as contractors, we still need ethics. Plus it's gonna lead to better karma for us, and better outcomes. If you protect yourself, tough but fair, know you did everything right, but still stood for your own interests, but didn't miss the chance to try to find a win-win: I think that's the way to go.