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Everybody I know who got Covid, got it from their kids which go to school. Yes mortality is low and kids are quite safe from hard impacts but they don't live i

Everybody I know who got Covid, got it from their kids which go to school. Yes mortality is low and kids are quite safe from hard impacts but they don't live in a bubble. They meet people. Also: even if you don't die of it, it could have severe impacts on your life. Long Covid is a thing. It's not that simple...

gjsman-1000 5y ago
If everyone got it, destroying businesses and families for over a year in some states to postpone the inevitable was stupid.
- Krasnol 5y ago
  How do/did you know it's "inevitable"? I didn't have Covid yet. At least as far as I know. I work in health IT and have been vaccinating and protecting myself according to the book. It works.
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  - onepointsixC 5y ago
    Respectfully, how do you know you didn't have it? If you are young and vaccinated, the chances of your covid being asymptomatic would be quite high.
    - Krasnol 5y ago
      As I said: "as far as I know". We have to follow a tight testing routine. The remaining chances are quite low.
  - gjsman-1000 5y ago
    Good for you, you are in a situation where you are not reliant on a small business and it’s easy to follow advisories. There’s far more to life and jobs than that. As for how it’s inevitable - maybe it wasn’t, but look around you. An awful lot of destruction we did for questionable benefits. And I know that with the next pandemic, far less people are going to listen. To them, the credibility of experts has been permanently damaged.
    - drekk 5y ago
      Maybe the government should have paid people so they could stay home? But that's communism and then no one will work and who will bring us our McDonald's order during the outbreak
      - gjsman-1000 5y ago
        You seem to not comprehend how completely unworkable such a solution is for a country as broad as the US. Also, we did try, it was called Payroll Protection and it was an epic fail.
      - rnotaro 5y ago
        We paid 2k$ a month for people to stay at home in Canada and it was quite an issue with low income jobs.
      - chrismcb 5y ago
        They did.
    - Krasnol 5y ago
      How do you measure "questionable benefits"? As a Government you have to protect every single citizen. Lifes have been saved because of lockdowns, vaccination, masks, etc. Not doing that and letting everybody get Covid to see who survives is barbaric. I know that it's no seen that way in the US since this has been your culture but you should accept that it's not seen that way in civilized countries.
      - gjsman-1000 5y ago
        Lives have also been lost because of lockdowns, vaccination, masks, etc. Pretending that lockdowns have no collateral damage upon families, businesses, education, and so on is barbaric. And pretending that people aren't allowed to weigh the pros and cons of these actions without being called names is also not the hallmark of a civilized country.
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  - chrismcb 5y ago
    What "works?" Statistics? You can do everything wrong and still not get covid. About 10% of the population has gotten covid reach year (at least in USA) sure that probably goes up if you don't follow all those protocols. But even if you don't, there is still a good chance you didn't get it. Here, have my tiger repellant rock.
- drekk 5y ago
  It wasn't inevitable, Americans chose per usual to do something half-ass, which generally is worse than doing nothing at all or full-assing it
  - gjsman-1000 5y ago
    In my state, it was as full-assed as it could be without societal collapse, and didn’t work.
hackflip 5y ago
Should children have to sacrifice their development to protect adults? I always thought adults should be the ones making sacrifices for children, not the other way around.
- ZeroGravitas 5y ago
  On airplanes the parents are told to fit their oxygen mask first in an emergency, as its hard to help your child when you are unconscious. I feel the same applies here.
  - gruez 5y ago
    >I feel the same applies here. That doesn't really follow logically. The reason why that's the advice on airplanes is that you can be unconscious for a while (a minute or two?) and not suffer brain damage. Therefore the cost of helping yourself is fairly low. It's not clear that the same dynamic applies to lockdowns.
- Levitz 5y ago
  Definitely not the norm with the boomer generation. It's not people under 50 that are really victims of covid. Harsh point to make but at this point I hold what I consider to be a very justifiable grudge.
- Krasnol 5y ago
  No they shouldn't but your government should provide for those children and their development. There are countries on this planet which have shown how it's supposed to be done. Instead some Governments went out and sacrificed everybody.

gjsman-1000 5y ago

If everyone got it, destroying businesses and families for over a year in some states to postpone the inevitable was stupid.

Krasnol 5y ago
How do/did you know it's "inevitable"? I didn't have Covid yet. At least as far as I know. I work in health IT and have been vaccinating and protecting myself according to the book. It works.
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- onepointsixC 5y ago
  Respectfully, how do you know you didn't have it? If you are young and vaccinated, the chances of your covid being asymptomatic would be quite high.
  - Krasnol 5y ago
    As I said: "as far as I know". We have to follow a tight testing routine. The remaining chances are quite low.
- gjsman-1000 5y ago
  Good for you, you are in a situation where you are not reliant on a small business and it’s easy to follow advisories. There’s far more to life and jobs than that. As for how it’s inevitable - maybe it wasn’t, but look around you. An awful lot of destruction we did for questionable benefits. And I know that with the next pandemic, far less people are going to listen. To them, the credibility of experts has been permanently damaged.
  - drekk 5y ago
    Maybe the government should have paid people so they could stay home? But that's communism and then no one will work and who will bring us our McDonald's order during the outbreak
    - gjsman-1000 5y ago
      You seem to not comprehend how completely unworkable such a solution is for a country as broad as the US. Also, we did try, it was called Payroll Protection and it was an epic fail.
    - rnotaro 5y ago
      We paid 2k$ a month for people to stay at home in Canada and it was quite an issue with low income jobs.
    - chrismcb 5y ago
      They did.
  - Krasnol 5y ago
    How do you measure "questionable benefits"? As a Government you have to protect every single citizen. Lifes have been saved because of lockdowns, vaccination, masks, etc. Not doing that and letting everybody get Covid to see who survives is barbaric. I know that it's no seen that way in the US since this has been your culture but you should accept that it's not seen that way in civilized countries.
    - gjsman-1000 5y ago
      Lives have also been lost because of lockdowns, vaccination, masks, etc. Pretending that lockdowns have no collateral damage upon families, businesses, education, and so on is barbaric. And pretending that people aren't allowed to weigh the pros and cons of these actions without being called names is also not the hallmark of a civilized country.
      - 5y ago
- chrismcb 5y ago
  What "works?" Statistics? You can do everything wrong and still not get covid. About 10% of the population has gotten covid reach year (at least in USA) sure that probably goes up if you don't follow all those protocols. But even if you don't, there is still a good chance you didn't get it. Here, have my tiger repellant rock.
drekk 5y ago
It wasn't inevitable, Americans chose per usual to do something half-ass, which generally is worse than doing nothing at all or full-assing it
- gjsman-1000 5y ago
  In my state, it was as full-assed as it could be without societal collapse, and didn’t work.

hackflip 5y ago

Should children have to sacrifice their development to protect adults? I always thought adults should be the ones making sacrifices for children, not the other way around.

ZeroGravitas 5y ago
On airplanes the parents are told to fit their oxygen mask first in an emergency, as its hard to help your child when you are unconscious. I feel the same applies here.
- gruez 5y ago
  >I feel the same applies here. That doesn't really follow logically. The reason why that's the advice on airplanes is that you can be unconscious for a while (a minute or two?) and not suffer brain damage. Therefore the cost of helping yourself is fairly low. It's not clear that the same dynamic applies to lockdowns.
Levitz 5y ago
Definitely not the norm with the boomer generation. It's not people under 50 that are really victims of covid. Harsh point to make but at this point I hold what I consider to be a very justifiable grudge.
Krasnol 5y ago
No they shouldn't but your government should provide for those children and their development. There are countries on this planet which have shown how it's supposed to be done. Instead some Governments went out and sacrificed everybody.