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You are claiming that medication cannot help with issues (expressing skepticism). I'm sympathetic to what you are saying that external factors are definitely a

by rtpg 5y ago

You are claiming that medication cannot help with issues (expressing skepticism). I'm sympathetic to what you are saying that external factors are definitely at play (of course they are, in a sense. Mental illness characterised by social interaction will depend on factors of those social interactions). But you're dismissing internal factors! For many mental illnesses, people are able to function on a day-to-day basis without treatment, but would feel better with proper treatment. And sometimes the cup overflows, and people suffer because of it. And people in the chorus of skepticism play into people not getting treatment.

pdimitar 5y ago
Dude, I'm not dismissing anything. I just didn't want to write a book. :) But I can see that many misunderstood my intent, so likely my fault. All I was saying is that medication is over-represented. That was all really. I myself have been on CBD and it helped me. I know pills can be good temporary crutches. But IMO they are given away too quickly (anecdotal evidence) without much regard to what the person is actually going through. I'm obviously aware that what I observed is not 100% of the cases. Really not sure what made so many jump on me claiming that I over-generalized. I didn't. I'm on your side and on the side of many who are going through a rough patch, very much because half of my life was a rough patch. I'm all too aware. I was only saying that medication is a trigger-happy tactic (again in my statistically insignificant observations).
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- texasbigdata 5y ago
  "given away too quickly" Generally agree with your comment but .... You're an adult. Decide what you need and take agency. The doc isn't forcing you to gobble pills and not do CBT. The fact that they're available, and with low friction if it appears that you need them is great. Here's a stupid analogy. To become a bodybuilder you need to lift heavy compound movements probably under a barbell over a long period of time. You have a scrawny kid come into your gym and he says he likes doing push-ups. Why not let him do pushups? Just because they're "too easy to access" and not the stack ranked force prioritized #1 option for hypertrophy? In general were super prescriptive on what others should do, but most Americans don't exercise, etc. More availability of a broader array of treatment modalities is a feature not a big IMHO.

by rtpg 5y ago

pdimitar 5y ago

Dude, I'm not dismissing anything. I just didn't want to write a book. :) But I can see that many misunderstood my intent, so likely my fault. All I was saying is that medication is over-represented. That was all really. I myself have been on CBD and it helped me. I know pills can be good temporary crutches. But IMO they are given away too quickly (anecdotal evidence) without much regard to what the person is actually going through. I'm obviously aware that what I observed is not 100% of the cases. Really not sure what made so many jump on me claiming that I over-generalized. I didn't. I'm on your side and on the side of many who are going through a rough patch, very much because half of my life was a rough patch. I'm all too aware. I was only saying that medication is a trigger-happy tactic (again in my statistically insignificant observations).

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texasbigdata 5y ago
"given away too quickly" Generally agree with your comment but .... You're an adult. Decide what you need and take agency. The doc isn't forcing you to gobble pills and not do CBT. The fact that they're available, and with low friction if it appears that you need them is great. Here's a stupid analogy. To become a bodybuilder you need to lift heavy compound movements probably under a barbell over a long period of time. You have a scrawny kid come into your gym and he says he likes doing push-ups. Why not let him do pushups? Just because they're "too easy to access" and not the stack ranked force prioritized #1 option for hypertrophy? In general were super prescriptive on what others should do, but most Americans don't exercise, etc. More availability of a broader array of treatment modalities is a feature not a big IMHO.