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I'm sick of people pretending that they know more about brain chemistry and human behavior than the thousands of professionals and the decades of research devot

I'm sick of people pretending that they know more about brain chemistry and human behavior than the thousands of professionals and the decades of research devoted to the topic, but here we are with your dismissive posts. Some people eventually get off the medications. Some can't function without them. Your attitude is akin to being upset because once a paraplegic is in a wheelchair that they never just get up and try to walk again.

pdimitar 5y ago
I only see one upset person here and it's not me. It will help if you read more slowly and if you don't get outraged during the process. Then you'll see that not one thing you said was something that I claimed. I never said not even one of the things you claim that I did. A bit of a puzzling comment you posted, man. Another hint: those thousands of professionals have a perverse monetary incentive. Food for thought. Some do good; I've met a few. Many others simply look annoyed and just hand you a prescription. We should do something about the latter.
- JulianChastain 5y ago
  In your original comment, you were "expressing skepticism that any medication will at all help with anything." This is an absolute statement that is directly contradicted by "Some [patients] can't function without [their medication]." Its ironic you criticize the reading skills of your interlocutor
  - pdimitar 5y ago
    - dang 5y ago
      You broke the site guidelines egregiously both by starting this flamewar and then perpetuating it with dozens of posts like this. That's seriously uncool. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29868497 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29868497 and stop doing this from now on. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
astrange 5y ago
Note that the right amount of knowledge to have about "brain chemistry" is none; we don't know how antidepressants work. The difference is uninformed commenters seem to think it's all serotonin levels. They are effective though.
- burntoutfire 5y ago
  I wonder how they compare vs alcohol, the other numbing agent that is widely used to treat depression.
Levitz 5y ago
>I'm sick of people pretending that they know more about brain chemistry and human behavior than the thousands of professionals and the decades of research devoted to the topic The "thousands of professionals and the decades of research devoted to the topic" were mislead by pharma companies propagating the erroneous idea that depression and other problems are just chemical imbalances in the brain that are to be fixed with medication and that's that. So you can hardly blame them.
dang 5y ago
Please stop breaking the site guidelines, no matter how wrong someone or you feel they are. Perhaps you don't feel you owe them better, but you definitely owe this community better if you're participating in it—regardless of how right you are or feel you are. We've had to ask you about this many times: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28981889 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28981889 (Oct 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28952194 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28952194 (Oct 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27648887 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27648887 (June 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27052513 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27052513 (May 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14405337 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14405337 (May 2017) That's not cool, and will eventually get you banned. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and eliminate this pattern, we'd appreciate it.

pdimitar 5y ago

I only see one upset person here and it's not me. It will help if you read more slowly and if you don't get outraged during the process. Then you'll see that not one thing you said was something that I claimed. I never said not even one of the things you claim that I did. A bit of a puzzling comment you posted, man. Another hint: those thousands of professionals have a perverse monetary incentive. Food for thought. Some do good; I've met a few. Many others simply look annoyed and just hand you a prescription. We should do something about the latter.

JulianChastain 5y ago
In your original comment, you were "expressing skepticism that any medication will at all help with anything." This is an absolute statement that is directly contradicted by "Some [patients] can't function without [their medication]." Its ironic you criticize the reading skills of your interlocutor
- pdimitar 5y ago
  - dang 5y ago
    You broke the site guidelines egregiously both by starting this flamewar and then perpetuating it with dozens of posts like this. That's seriously uncool. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29868497 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29868497 and stop doing this from now on. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

astrange 5y ago

Note that the right amount of knowledge to have about "brain chemistry" is none; we don't know how antidepressants work. The difference is uninformed commenters seem to think it's all serotonin levels. They are effective though.

burntoutfire 5y ago
I wonder how they compare vs alcohol, the other numbing agent that is widely used to treat depression.

Levitz 5y ago

>I'm sick of people pretending that they know more about brain chemistry and human behavior than the thousands of professionals and the decades of research devoted to the topic The "thousands of professionals and the decades of research devoted to the topic" were mislead by pharma companies propagating the erroneous idea that depression and other problems are just chemical imbalances in the brain that are to be fixed with medication and that's that. So you can hardly blame them.

dang 5y ago

Please stop breaking the site guidelines, no matter how wrong someone or you feel they are. Perhaps you don't feel you owe them better, but you definitely owe this community better if you're participating in it—regardless of how right you are or feel you are. We've had to ask you about this many times: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28981889 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28981889 (Oct 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28952194 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28952194 (Oct 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27648887 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27648887 (June 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27052513 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27052513 (May 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14405337 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14405337 (May 2017) That's not cool, and will eventually get you banned. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and eliminate this pattern, we'd appreciate it.