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> Researchers, though, cautioned against drawing direct lines between these spikes and conditions brought on by the coronavirus pandemic, which disrupted nearly

by awb 5y ago

> Researchers, though, cautioned against drawing direct lines between these spikes and conditions brought on by the coronavirus pandemic, which disrupted nearly every aspect of U.S. life starting in the middle of last March. > A heightened appreciation about mental health in 2020 might have prompted parents to get their children mental health treatment, they said. > “Conversely, by spending more time at home together with young persons, adults might have become more aware of suicidal thoughts and behaviors, and thus been more likely to take their children to the ED," according to the report. Happy to see a correlation != causation disclaimer.

diontron 5y ago
- responsivity 5y ago
  Seems cyclical. Going insane causes people to lock people/themselves in their homes and locking people in homes/being locked in homes causes insanity.
LexGray 5y ago
One could just as easily draw the conclusion that spending time with parents was the cause of the extra stress. I wonder if there is any chance of actual actionable data being teased out.
- ya_throw 5y ago
  Parents who were also trying to hold down jobs. At the time, my partner and I had a 1 year old and were both working. It was incredibly difficult, stressful, and 100% not sustainable. We cracked after a few weeks. We also strongly believe that just putting young children in front of screens for hours at a time is detrimental to their development, and did not do that like so many other parents (who all justified it because they "had to" to keep working. That is another whole debate - I am sure that not many people would have gone to the effort we did during lockdowns and restrictions to shield our kids from the poor parenting practices that are now widespread). Also, having young children is incredibly isolating, and already something like a lockdown in itself. Humans in that position are supposed to go out and see as many people as they can, usually in the form of meeting other parents at their houses, cafes, parks, etc. All of that was illegal, at least where I lived. My blood still boils thinking of how horribly harmful that was.
fny 5y ago
What a classic HN response. Humans are social creatures. How are lockdowns and social distancing not causal? There's a reason long distance relationships fail and solitary confinement is an ultimate punishment. Add to this doomsday news on loop, confusing messaging on vaccines. I also have too, too much anecdata to counter this. I spent time helping families during the COVID crisis. The amount of confusion and uncertainty generated by the pandemic hit many families hard especially in states with strict lockdown regimes. I have friends who work as RCs at a top university: they are swamped with students devastated by the pandemic who are uncertain of what their futures hold given the gap. I have friends whose four year old has began pulling her hair out for no reason early on in the pandemic. They started taking her to a private prek that was opened. It stopped.
- SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
  > There's a reason long distance relationships fail ??? “ Research has even shown that long distance couples tend to have the same or more satisfaction in their relationships than couples who are geographically close, and higher levels of dedication to their relationships and less feelings of being trapped.” https://time.com/5316307/best-long-distance-relationship-tips-experts/?amp=true https://time.com/5316307/best-long-distance-relationship-tip...
  - Mikeb85 5y ago
    Survivorship bias. Most fail quickly, the only ones that make it are the super dedicated couples.
    - vmception 5y ago
      All kinds of relationships fail quickly.
  - vmception 5y ago
    I was looking at a variety of discussions on age-gapped relationships and have noticed the same, people blame the relationship failing on the age gap and the younger persons own admissions about how they look at it differently, instead of the general distribution of all relationships failing People basically get what they want tk hear out of it, instead of checking whether the same standard yields different results elsewhere

by awb 5y ago

diontron 5y ago

responsivity 5y ago
Seems cyclical. Going insane causes people to lock people/themselves in their homes and locking people in homes/being locked in homes causes insanity.

LexGray 5y ago

One could just as easily draw the conclusion that spending time with parents was the cause of the extra stress. I wonder if there is any chance of actual actionable data being teased out.

ya_throw 5y ago
Parents who were also trying to hold down jobs. At the time, my partner and I had a 1 year old and were both working. It was incredibly difficult, stressful, and 100% not sustainable. We cracked after a few weeks. We also strongly believe that just putting young children in front of screens for hours at a time is detrimental to their development, and did not do that like so many other parents (who all justified it because they "had to" to keep working. That is another whole debate - I am sure that not many people would have gone to the effort we did during lockdowns and restrictions to shield our kids from the poor parenting practices that are now widespread). Also, having young children is incredibly isolating, and already something like a lockdown in itself. Humans in that position are supposed to go out and see as many people as they can, usually in the form of meeting other parents at their houses, cafes, parks, etc. All of that was illegal, at least where I lived. My blood still boils thinking of how horribly harmful that was.

fny 5y ago

What a classic HN response. Humans are social creatures. How are lockdowns and social distancing not causal? There's a reason long distance relationships fail and solitary confinement is an ultimate punishment. Add to this doomsday news on loop, confusing messaging on vaccines. I also have too, too much anecdata to counter this. I spent time helping families during the COVID crisis. The amount of confusion and uncertainty generated by the pandemic hit many families hard especially in states with strict lockdown regimes. I have friends who work as RCs at a top university: they are swamped with students devastated by the pandemic who are uncertain of what their futures hold given the gap. I have friends whose four year old has began pulling her hair out for no reason early on in the pandemic. They started taking her to a private prek that was opened. It stopped.

SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
> There's a reason long distance relationships fail ??? “ Research has even shown that long distance couples tend to have the same or more satisfaction in their relationships than couples who are geographically close, and higher levels of dedication to their relationships and less feelings of being trapped.” https://time.com/5316307/best-long-distance-relationship-tips-experts/?amp=true https://time.com/5316307/best-long-distance-relationship-tip...
- Mikeb85 5y ago
  Survivorship bias. Most fail quickly, the only ones that make it are the super dedicated couples.
  - vmception 5y ago
    All kinds of relationships fail quickly.
- vmception 5y ago
  I was looking at a variety of discussions on age-gapped relationships and have noticed the same, people blame the relationship failing on the age gap and the younger persons own admissions about how they look at it differently, instead of the general distribution of all relationships failing People basically get what they want tk hear out of it, instead of checking whether the same standard yields different results elsewhere