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I like that companies are innovating and there is competition in this space. In 2018, John Deere only had 17% of the tractor market [1]. If farmer's don't like

by jimmar 5y ago

I like that companies are innovating and there is competition in this space. In 2018, John Deere only had 17% of the tractor market [1]. If farmer's don't like the tech, lack of repairability, etc, it seems they have plenty of other options. I don't get why some people on this thread are so upset. [1] https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/some-of-the-major-companies-dominating-the-market-studied-are-john-deere-cnh-industrial-agco-corp-kubota-corp-class-mahindra--mahindra-kuhn-group-yanmar-co-ltd-and-escorts-and-they-captured-63-of-the-market-in-2018-300991064.html https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/some-of-the-major-c...

nexuist 5y ago
> I don't get why some people on this thread are so upset. Agriculture is a critical component of a functional society. It's not a good idea to allow a few corporations to monopolize our entire food supply, and small farmers are constantly struggling to keep their heads above water. When suppliers like JD pull this BS with tech, it's a canary in the coal mine moment signaling that whoever controls JD could one day indirectly control US agriculture, which is a significant national security concern. This particular tractor seems to be completely linked to JD's cloud system, there's no way to run it locally or independently from JD. If this becomes the norm 10 years from now and every tractor relies on JD's permission to operate, what happens when JD gets hit by ransomware or attacked by hostile nation states? Every tractor in the country suddenly refuses to work and we no longer have enough food to feed everyone. This would be a manmade disaster with unimaginable consequences (although one easy to imagine one is nuclear holocaust).
syshum 5y ago
We are in the mist of one of the biggest supply chain disruptions in modern history and you have to ask why people would be upset about technology that make a critical part of human life dependent on a company that openly hostile to human rights (for which I consider right to own property a basic human right)?? You can not image a scenario where this can cause huge supply chain issue with the food supply? You can not image a scenario where this leads to further consolidation of farms into larger and larger corporations that control a larger percent of the national food supply? I am shocked more people are not upset about this.

by jimmar 5y ago

nexuist 5y ago

> I don't get why some people on this thread are so upset. Agriculture is a critical component of a functional society. It's not a good idea to allow a few corporations to monopolize our entire food supply, and small farmers are constantly struggling to keep their heads above water. When suppliers like JD pull this BS with tech, it's a canary in the coal mine moment signaling that whoever controls JD could one day indirectly control US agriculture, which is a significant national security concern. This particular tractor seems to be completely linked to JD's cloud system, there's no way to run it locally or independently from JD. If this becomes the norm 10 years from now and every tractor relies on JD's permission to operate, what happens when JD gets hit by ransomware or attacked by hostile nation states? Every tractor in the country suddenly refuses to work and we no longer have enough food to feed everyone. This would be a manmade disaster with unimaginable consequences (although one easy to imagine one is nuclear holocaust).

syshum 5y ago

We are in the mist of one of the biggest supply chain disruptions in modern history and you have to ask why people would be upset about technology that make a critical part of human life dependent on a company that openly hostile to human rights (for which I consider right to own property a basic human right)?? You can not image a scenario where this can cause huge supply chain issue with the food supply? You can not image a scenario where this leads to further consolidation of farms into larger and larger corporations that control a larger percent of the national food supply? I am shocked more people are not upset about this.