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>So. "All things considered", what's your opposition to what I wrote and not to what you imagine I wrote? OK. Lets' start here. Do you have citation for any of

• dmitriid 5y ago
  > Please read the links I provided regarding economic freedoms in the world. China alone is ~ 20% of the worlds population and has currency controls prohibiting its citizens I will only answer this because it's both hillarious and sad that crypto peddelrs have literally zero understanding of how the world works. - Does China have currency controls? Yes - Is China an authoritarian regime for some unspecified definition of authoritarian? Yes - Does this mean it's dysfunctional and its citizens need help from crypto? Ahahahaha, no. And here's why. An average person in a functioning state couldn't care less about not being able to spend some other country's currency somewhere else. - Does China have a functioning government? Yes - Does China have functioning banks? Yes - Does China have means by which its citizens can procure and use goods and services? A resounding yes. As an example, on Singles Day AliPay alone handles over a bllion orders a day. - Does China have means by which its citizens can participate in global economy including, but not limited to trading with other countries? A resounding yes. Between the EU, the US and Japan China does almost 2 trillion of dollars of international trade. Hobbyists and entusiasts all around the world routinely order made-to-order things from small companies and individuals in China. etc. etc. etc. > I'm here because you are coming across as minimizing the economic struggles of millions of people. Once again, stop pretending I'm doing and saying something I'm not. The only ones who minimise and frankly have no idea about struggles of millions of people are crypto peddlers in this thread. I mean, you are literally saying that people in China are struggling because they cannot do currency speculation. How out of touch with real world can you be? > Unless I'm mistaken, you seem to think that people can't/don't cash out abroad. Yes, you are mistaken. I never, at any point in the conversation ever even talked about taking cash abroad. And since you decided to present China as an example... Have you never seen a Chinese tourist? They have no problems taking cash abroad it seems. > I suspect you didn't notice that this is our first interaction I honestly can't distinguish between people with identical behaviours. > I suspect some of your anger/confusion is because you are confusing us? I suspect my anger is because you are identical: - you invent arguments your opponent never produced - you have literally no understanding of the world around you. For example, an authoritarian regime is not necessarily dysfunctional, and people in authoritarian regimes don't necessarily suffer. Yet, you keep pretending it's the same things, and people necessarily suffer - You keep pretending that the only thing people en messe care about is currencies, and are suffering if they can't buy/spend other currencies than their countries'. And on and on and on. This is my last post in this pointless thread. Do come back when you have learned: - how to answer what your opponent said, not what you imagine your opponent said, and - how the world works. Go visit China, for example.
  • mthoms 5y ago
    > people in authoritarian regimes don't necessarily suffer. What!? By definition, they suffer. It's right in the definition of the word: favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom I mean come on. You're saying I don't understand how the world works, but say dishonest things like this? Really? Wow. >I will only answer this because it's both hillarious and sad that crypto peddelrs have literally zero understanding of how the world works. [...] An average person in a functioning state couldn't care less about not being able to spend some other country's currency somewhere else. It's plain that you who don't understand how the world works. Why do you think those currency controls exist? For funsies? I mean really... you're failing at very basic logic. There are actual, very real, flesh and blood people in this very thread claiming they are using crypto to evade currency controls. But you downplay their struggles. Not very classy. But, anything to win an argument right? Speaking of class, you know it's also possible to disagree on something without juvenile, grade-school level taunting. You should try it. >You keep pretending that the only thing people en messe care about is currencies I said it's the only thing? Really? I said that? No, I merely said it was a thing. I very important one. But... it's me who's putting words in your mouth. Right. Don't bother replying. I won't be reading it. I'm cool to debate many things but basic concepts around human rights (including economic ones) are not one of them. There's lots to hate about crypto. I agree with that 100%. I won't strongly argue about any of them except this particular topic (evading currency controls in authoritarian countries). You know, you can still be right about crypto in general while conceding a very small point: That draconian currency controls are a form of economic oppression that millions of people suffer under. There are examples in this very thread you are outright ignoring. Stay angry, friend.
    • dang 5y ago
      Flamewar comments like this, and others you've posted recently, are not ok and will get you banned here. We've had to warn you about this several times before, and unfortunately you've continued to do it quite regularly. Would you please review the site rules and fix this? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html In particular, please stop the pattern where you get entangled with some other user you're arguing with, and then get increasingly aggressive toward them. That's absolutely not ok, regardless of how wrong they or or you feel they are, and regardless of whether they're also breaking the site guidelines. Also, please don't use HN primarily for ideological battle. I'm seeing mostly that in your recent comments. We want curious conversation, not battle, on this site. Not only are those not the same, they're incompatible—for the same reason that having a tank battle and playing frisbee in the park are not compatible, or that boxing and dancing aren't. When an account is primarily using HN for battle, that's one line at which we ban the account [1, 2]. I don't want to ban you, so if you'd please fix this also, I'd appreciate it. It would be good if you'd review the guidelines and take their intended spirit to heart. We want thoughtful, respectful, intellectually interesting conversation that gratifies intellectual curiosity. We don't want comments (and commenters) that are just out to defeat enemies—which I'm afraid is how your participation in more than one thread has been coming across. If you want more explanation, perhaps https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23959679 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23959679 would help. [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... [2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20bimodal%20battle&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...