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It's minutiae to be concerned when someone who just tested positive for covid is talking to you with their mask down?

djrogers 5y ago
Given that guidance has said that close exposure for 10-15 minutes is required for transmission, yes - it does seem a little overboard.
- r1ch 5y ago
  That guidance is pre-omicron. Someone talking in your face seems like extremely high risk these days.
  - GavinMcG 5y ago
    Pre-delta, even: https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-delta-variant-is-more-contagious-heres-what-it-means-for-you-11627473901 https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-delta-variant-is-more-conta...
- selfhoster11 5y ago
  Guidance often lags behind or doesn't match science because of political influence. What's legal doesn't determine what's right, science does.
- kar5pt 5y ago
  You can catch omicron from walking into an elevator someone else coughed in.
hidudeurcool 5y ago
yes
thepasswordis 5y ago
In the context of the school, yes it does. If you're in a school: you're catching omicron, and unless all of the students are wearing at least PAPR hoods all the time, everybody is catching it. Allowing yourself to get worked up about seeing a kid with his mask down in the bathroom is insane.
llimos 5y ago
Yes, because for schoolkids, Omicron is literally a cold, if that. The other variants, call it a bad cold. The only reason to stop them catching it is to stop them spreading it. Had someone three years ago been that concerned about someone with a cold, yes, that would be minutiae.
- astrange 5y ago
  It's about as bad as a flu, but that's quite bad. People underestimate the flu because they confuse it with a cold.
- floatingatoll 5y ago
  There are many cultures that strongly value parents, elders and extended family, and Covid is 'a cold' that could kill random loved ones in their extended family, such as their favorite grandmother or their aunt's best friend. For a teenager, being the vector of infection that leads to such a death would result in critical emotional trauma and lead to a much higher risk of suicide — a fact they are well aware of, given the significant uptick in suicides within their age group since Covid began. They may be teenagers, but they're not wrong to attend to the minutiae; whether for selfish or for social reasons, that awareness may be all that is keeping them and their loved ones alive. It is cruel and unjust and wrong that they alone are attending to the minutiae of masking, but here in the United States our social support systems often require them to bear that responsibility, as the adults responsible for them often do not.
- TAKEMYMONEY 5y ago
  > The only reason to stop them catching it is to stop them spreading it Like their parents, who could end up hospitalized, or worse? Seems like a good reason to be concerned.
- skeaker 5y ago
  School kids live with their parents/guardians, and if they get it it will most likely mean that those guardians also will. That can be very serious for a kid who literally depends on them for everything including food, clothing, housing, essentials to life, etc. This is especially so if those guardians are older and at higher risk of death. A child is absolutely right to be more worried about it than they would be about a cold, because if it spreads to their family (and it likely will), that could well be a life ruining event.

Given that guidance has said that close exposure for 10-15 minutes is required for transmission, yes - it does seem a little overboard.

r1ch 5y ago
That guidance is pre-omicron. Someone talking in your face seems like extremely high risk these days.
- GavinMcG 5y ago
  Pre-delta, even: https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-delta-variant-is-more-contagious-heres-what-it-means-for-you-11627473901 https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-delta-variant-is-more-conta...
selfhoster11 5y ago
Guidance often lags behind or doesn't match science because of political influence. What's legal doesn't determine what's right, science does.
kar5pt 5y ago
You can catch omicron from walking into an elevator someone else coughed in.

hidudeurcool 5y ago

yes

thepasswordis 5y ago

In the context of the school, yes it does. If you're in a school: you're catching omicron, and unless all of the students are wearing at least PAPR hoods all the time, everybody is catching it. Allowing yourself to get worked up about seeing a kid with his mask down in the bathroom is insane.

llimos 5y ago

Yes, because for schoolkids, Omicron is literally a cold, if that. The other variants, call it a bad cold. The only reason to stop them catching it is to stop them spreading it. Had someone three years ago been that concerned about someone with a cold, yes, that would be minutiae.

astrange 5y ago
It's about as bad as a flu, but that's quite bad. People underestimate the flu because they confuse it with a cold.
floatingatoll 5y ago
There are many cultures that strongly value parents, elders and extended family, and Covid is 'a cold' that could kill random loved ones in their extended family, such as their favorite grandmother or their aunt's best friend. For a teenager, being the vector of infection that leads to such a death would result in critical emotional trauma and lead to a much higher risk of suicide — a fact they are well aware of, given the significant uptick in suicides within their age group since Covid began. They may be teenagers, but they're not wrong to attend to the minutiae; whether for selfish or for social reasons, that awareness may be all that is keeping them and their loved ones alive. It is cruel and unjust and wrong that they alone are attending to the minutiae of masking, but here in the United States our social support systems often require them to bear that responsibility, as the adults responsible for them often do not.
TAKEMYMONEY 5y ago
> The only reason to stop them catching it is to stop them spreading it Like their parents, who could end up hospitalized, or worse? Seems like a good reason to be concerned.
skeaker 5y ago
School kids live with their parents/guardians, and if they get it it will most likely mean that those guardians also will. That can be very serious for a kid who literally depends on them for everything including food, clothing, housing, essentials to life, etc. This is especially so if those guardians are older and at higher risk of death. A child is absolutely right to be more worried about it than they would be about a cold, because if it spreads to their family (and it likely will), that could well be a life ruining event.