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Something else was found and they aren't saying.

by ozfive 5y ago

emodendroket 5y ago
I don't buy it. I think if they had something they wouldn't run with a piece this vague and noncommittal. There's no meat here.
- toss1 5y ago
  When critical information is found, intelligence agencies often do NOT want to expose it, at least to the extent that the release could reveal HOW they found it, and thus alert the adversary to the leak path so they shut it off. This is just bog-standard operating procedure. Just because they aren't telling us, does NOT mean we can therefore infer that nothing more exists.
  - emodendroket 5y ago
    Here is my guess: as you probably know, how much engagement to have with China is a hot-button topic in Taiwanese politics. If you were the type who thought less, why not call up a friendly reporter on background and get him to write up an ominous report on what China could, thereotically, do, based on absolutely nothing. The alternative of "let's just assume spies have something they don't wish to disclose, except they kind of do and want to put it in the papers" strikes me as a bit too trusting but I can't tell you what to think.
    - TooSmugToFail 5y ago
      This is not just Taiwan. US has all but banned Chinese drones for most govt-related flight ops. Japan has banned Chinese drones. In Europe, internal risk-assessment memos are circulating advising security agencies to avoid using Chinese drones. You’re missing a massive part of the context here. This particular article may be missing factual evidence to support some of the voiced concerns, but it’s hardly a singular shout in an ocean of silence. It strongly resonates with a rather diverse chorus of voices coming from multiple independent sources. So yeah, it’s a thing.
      - emodendroket 5y ago
        Yes, I am well aware that there is an internationally-coordinated "decoupling" campaign from China, which is precisely why I view this story as politically motivated and intentionally misleading. In fact, dubious stories like this are essential to the operation -- you have to give some sort of public cover to get people onboard. There's a reason spies so much time "leaking" stuff to the press.
  - ozfive 5y ago
    This is absolutely 100% correct. Perfect explanation for what I was unable to espouse.

Something else was found and they aren't saying.

by ozfive 5y ago

Something else was found and they aren't saying.

I don't buy it. I think if they had something they wouldn't run with a piece this vague and noncommittal. There's no meat here.

toss1 5y ago
When critical information is found, intelligence agencies often do NOT want to expose it, at least to the extent that the release could reveal HOW they found it, and thus alert the adversary to the leak path so they shut it off. This is just bog-standard operating procedure. Just because they aren't telling us, does NOT mean we can therefore infer that nothing more exists.
- emodendroket 5y ago
  Here is my guess: as you probably know, how much engagement to have with China is a hot-button topic in Taiwanese politics. If you were the type who thought less, why not call up a friendly reporter on background and get him to write up an ominous report on what China could, thereotically, do, based on absolutely nothing. The alternative of "let's just assume spies have something they don't wish to disclose, except they kind of do and want to put it in the papers" strikes me as a bit too trusting but I can't tell you what to think.
  - TooSmugToFail 5y ago
    This is not just Taiwan. US has all but banned Chinese drones for most govt-related flight ops. Japan has banned Chinese drones. In Europe, internal risk-assessment memos are circulating advising security agencies to avoid using Chinese drones. You’re missing a massive part of the context here. This particular article may be missing factual evidence to support some of the voiced concerns, but it’s hardly a singular shout in an ocean of silence. It strongly resonates with a rather diverse chorus of voices coming from multiple independent sources. So yeah, it’s a thing.
    - emodendroket 5y ago
      Yes, I am well aware that there is an internationally-coordinated "decoupling" campaign from China, which is precisely why I view this story as politically motivated and intentionally misleading. In fact, dubious stories like this are essential to the operation -- you have to give some sort of public cover to get people onboard. There's a reason spies so much time "leaking" stuff to the press.
- ozfive 5y ago
  This is absolutely 100% correct. Perfect explanation for what I was unable to espouse.