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What is the purpose of this document, i.e. who does it apply to? Does it mean that a movie like Tangerine[1] (filmed on an iPhone) would never come to Netflix?

What is the purpose of this document, i.e. who does it apply to? Does it mean that a movie like Tangerine[1] (filmed on an iPhone) would never come to Netflix? [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangerine_(film) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangerine_(film)

dylan604 5y ago
You'd be amazed at the number of people involved in creating content that know nothing about the technical aspect of content creation. In most situations, they hire people to do things for them, and they will typically as for what kind of specs they are looking to deliver. Any company that produces something will have similar type of "specs".
chrisseaton 5y ago
Look at the domain name. It's Netflix Studios, not Netflix the consumer service. If you aren't doing business with Netflix Studios then ignore it. I'm sure you already know that there are many films and TV programmes on Netflix that were made before any of these cameras existed that they're perfectly happy to accept for Netflix?
bredren 5y ago
I suspect any film that was good enough could bypass many, many of the guidelines they have for partners, including use of a camera that is not on that list. The collection of documents seems to be guidelines and templates to begin from if seeking to partner with Netflix. It doesn't seem like requirements for the film from being considered for inclusion in the catalogue, but at least offers a relative standard that can be deviated from as necessary. For example, the general safety and guidelines document they provide for the US includes guidelines on weapons handling and stunts.[1] Having documents like this to start from might remove some of the administrative overhead to creating art in film. To offer a comparison, YC has the SAFE investment template, an enterprise sales agreement template and recommendations for organization of startups. Using these might make a new company an easier fold into the portfolio but if the startup is successful enough, many things likely can be seen past. Regarding iPhone specifically, the device has been able to record in 4k since the 6S and 6S Plus, which was one generation later than Tangerine which used the 5S. That said, I don't know the details of video capture to say if anything up through the 13 Pro compares with these other cameras. [1] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gs6n32bMC_2zLGp2jI4U3JA7k7q4KQLU/view https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gs6n32bMC_2zLGp2jI4U3JA7k7q...
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- bb88 5y ago
  > I suspect any film that was good enough could bypass many, many of the guidelines they have for partners... To clarify, I believe this is for original Netflix content (partners) where Netflix does the production. 3rd party studios licensing their content would be exempt from this (ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX). The big issue is that you have to get pre-approval for non-approved cameras. I suspect that Netflix/Apple/Amazon is trying to make their name in content beating out cable and movie production studios. High quality 4k video is what people are clamoring for. I've seen a lot of cable/broadcast 1080p (The local CW station comes to mind) that's been recompressed to a lower bit rate. Effectively giving you 720p resolution in 1080p format -- it's not nearly as enjoyable.
nocut12 5y ago
High Flying Bird was a Netflix movie shot on iPhones. Granted, that was Soderbergh, so he probably gets a lot more pull than most other filmmakers. It was a movie where they bought the distribution rights and didn't produce, so maybe that stuff is different. I'm pretty unclear on what really constitutes a "Netflix Original" — lots of stuff that gets label is really just distributed by them. Pretty sure some of their other original stuff was shot on film too, which obviously wouldn't meet these requirements. At least, I know the non de-aged scenes for The Irishman were done on film. But again, maybe the big guys get more leeway here.

dylan604 5y ago

You'd be amazed at the number of people involved in creating content that know nothing about the technical aspect of content creation. In most situations, they hire people to do things for them, and they will typically as for what kind of specs they are looking to deliver. Any company that produces something will have similar type of "specs".

chrisseaton 5y ago

Look at the domain name. It's Netflix Studios, not Netflix the consumer service. If you aren't doing business with Netflix Studios then ignore it. I'm sure you already know that there are many films and TV programmes on Netflix that were made before any of these cameras existed that they're perfectly happy to accept for Netflix?

bredren 5y ago

I suspect any film that was good enough could bypass many, many of the guidelines they have for partners, including use of a camera that is not on that list. The collection of documents seems to be guidelines and templates to begin from if seeking to partner with Netflix. It doesn't seem like requirements for the film from being considered for inclusion in the catalogue, but at least offers a relative standard that can be deviated from as necessary. For example, the general safety and guidelines document they provide for the US includes guidelines on weapons handling and stunts.[1] Having documents like this to start from might remove some of the administrative overhead to creating art in film. To offer a comparison, YC has the SAFE investment template, an enterprise sales agreement template and recommendations for organization of startups. Using these might make a new company an easier fold into the portfolio but if the startup is successful enough, many things likely can be seen past. Regarding iPhone specifically, the device has been able to record in 4k since the 6S and 6S Plus, which was one generation later than Tangerine which used the 5S. That said, I don't know the details of video capture to say if anything up through the 13 Pro compares with these other cameras. [1] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gs6n32bMC_2zLGp2jI4U3JA7k7q4KQLU/view https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gs6n32bMC_2zLGp2jI4U3JA7k7q...

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bb88 5y ago
> I suspect any film that was good enough could bypass many, many of the guidelines they have for partners... To clarify, I believe this is for original Netflix content (partners) where Netflix does the production. 3rd party studios licensing their content would be exempt from this (ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX). The big issue is that you have to get pre-approval for non-approved cameras. I suspect that Netflix/Apple/Amazon is trying to make their name in content beating out cable and movie production studios. High quality 4k video is what people are clamoring for. I've seen a lot of cable/broadcast 1080p (The local CW station comes to mind) that's been recompressed to a lower bit rate. Effectively giving you 720p resolution in 1080p format -- it's not nearly as enjoyable.

nocut12 5y ago

High Flying Bird was a Netflix movie shot on iPhones. Granted, that was Soderbergh, so he probably gets a lot more pull than most other filmmakers. It was a movie where they bought the distribution rights and didn't produce, so maybe that stuff is different. I'm pretty unclear on what really constitutes a "Netflix Original" — lots of stuff that gets label is really just distributed by them. Pretty sure some of their other original stuff was shot on film too, which obviously wouldn't meet these requirements. At least, I know the non de-aged scenes for The Irishman were done on film. But again, maybe the big guys get more leeway here.