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that's great because the unix philosophy is pretty much a PITA as soon as you get out of grep | cut | tail | tee. I definitely don't want "unix philosophy" for
by jcelerier 5y ago
that's great because the unix philosophy is pretty much a PITA as soon as you get out of grep | cut | tail | tee. I definitely don't want "unix philosophy" for operating system management, that is the wrong tool for the job.
- hulitu 5y agoThen you should not use UNIX then. There is another mainstream OS besides UNIX. Some people like to be able to know what their system does and like to use tools on which they can rely on even when things go wrong.
- awrmc 5y agoI think it's fair to say that Linux isn't Unix and goes well beyond the design constraints of Unix that were imposed when it was originally started in 1969. That's the era you stick to when you insist on only doing things the Unix way, but there are a lot of other ways to know what your system does and have reliable tools. In current times the most common usage of Linux is Android, which is ostensibly not Unix-like at all regarding its userspace. If you're talking about GNU, that quite literally means "GNU is not Unix".
- jcelerier 5y agoyes, I don't use UNIX, I use ArchLinux which is a much better operating system for my computer needs. The "proper" UNIX I've used (macOS) really sucked in comparison.
- wrycoder 5y agoI've used Arch, it's really excellent. But, not now that it's systemd. I use Devuan for my servers, and Alpine for my desktop. I use MacOS and iOS for internet viewing and A/V. I have no interest in how they are implemented - superficial observation indicates they are a mess. I do ssh into my servers from MacOS - it's comfortable with my laptop actually in my lap.