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I'm confused at how stories may make this no longer a decent e2ee app. Is it that you actively dislike stories and don't want other people to have the option to

I'm confused at how stories may make this no longer a decent e2ee app. Is it that you actively dislike stories and don't want other people to have the option to use them? While you may not want them, is it possible your family does and this may even make it easier for them to switch to Signal (and stay) than not? Not trying to add snark, just genuinely curious why the addition of stories would detract from its e2ee nature.

hypertele-Xii 5y ago
Budgets are necessarily spent somewhere. A useless feature is paid work away from maintenance and staying relevant.
- jimkleiber 5y ago
  Ah, spreading too thin. Yes, I think that's a possibility. I also think not developing certain features can make one lose relevance. It's a trade off, no? I guess it just depends on someone's definition of a feature being "useless" and "irrelevant." Someone else sees live location as a necessary feature, I've never used it. Whereas I use statuses on WhatsApp almost every day.
  - hypertele-Xii 5y ago
    Yup. Social media is constantly searching for the perfect product by trying out ridiculous but interesting combinations of technologies. Something works, we try out different stuff and hope to make progress. But where is progress taking us? Should we follow it blindly?
    - jimkleiber 5y ago
      But how to know whether it makes progress or not?
      - hypertele-Xii 5y ago
        Exactly. Maybe it's all just a very clever proof of waste. Advertizement industry certainly looks like a cancer on collective conscioussness. Maybe art can supplant it. Extravagant displays of nothing in particular.
        jimkleiber 5y ago
        Figure out a new business model and I imagine many platforms will gladly move away from advertising. Advertising, unfortunately, has a pretty strong growth model. People get something for free and advertisers pay increasing prices for the one ad spot and when the spot maximizes its price, the platform creates more spots. As most business models, it burns out eventually, but subscriptions seem to burn out more quickly.

hypertele-Xii 5y ago

Budgets are necessarily spent somewhere. A useless feature is paid work away from maintenance and staying relevant.

jimkleiber 5y ago
Ah, spreading too thin. Yes, I think that's a possibility. I also think not developing certain features can make one lose relevance. It's a trade off, no? I guess it just depends on someone's definition of a feature being "useless" and "irrelevant." Someone else sees live location as a necessary feature, I've never used it. Whereas I use statuses on WhatsApp almost every day.
- hypertele-Xii 5y ago
  Yup. Social media is constantly searching for the perfect product by trying out ridiculous but interesting combinations of technologies. Something works, we try out different stuff and hope to make progress. But where is progress taking us? Should we follow it blindly?
  - jimkleiber 5y ago
    But how to know whether it makes progress or not?
    - hypertele-Xii 5y ago
      Exactly. Maybe it's all just a very clever proof of waste. Advertizement industry certainly looks like a cancer on collective conscioussness. Maybe art can supplant it. Extravagant displays of nothing in particular.
      - jimkleiber 5y ago
        Figure out a new business model and I imagine many platforms will gladly move away from advertising. Advertising, unfortunately, has a pretty strong growth model. People get something for free and advertisers pay increasing prices for the one ad spot and when the spot maximizes its price, the platform creates more spots. As most business models, it burns out eventually, but subscriptions seem to burn out more quickly.