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In NYC you must be vaccinated to... * Work at any private company * Work at any public company * Work at a public school * Visit a public school * Attend a

In NYC you must be vaccinated to... * Work at any private company * Work at any public company * Work at a public school * Visit a public school * Attend a public school * Go to a restaurant, bar, gym, etc This is the law. The "30 people in a room for 8 hours" have a vaccination rate near 100%. So... what are we worried about, again? Why do teachers need to quarantine just because they may have been exposed to someone who may (confirmed or not) have had COVID-19? For all intents and purposes you must be vaccinated to live in NYC. Which is probably why 95% of all NY residents 12+ have at least one dose and 84% of NYC residents 12+ are fully vaccinated.

viraptor 5y ago
With omicron 2 doses still don't give you much protection. (25% effective) One booster is good, but still ~55% effective. (UK stats) Then you get immunocompromised people and older population where breakthrough infections are still very dangerous. I don't know if reducing the contract would change anything anymore. But in terms of spread via kids, don't think of just the working / school / bar-going population.
- xapata 5y ago
  Much protection against infection or against hospitalization?
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  - CogitoCogito 5y ago
    No vaccines protect against infection. Maybe you mean does it protect against asymptomatic infection? Or asymptomatic transmission? (I don't know how effective it is for either.)
    - xapata 5y ago
      The polio vaccine doesn't protect against polio infection? I guess I'm not familiar with the technical meaning of infection.
      - CogitoCogito 5y ago
        I think the problem is that you imagine "infection" to mean "disease" or something similar. Infection means that the pathogen gets in your body and starts to grow. There is no vaccine that can prevent that. What a vaccine can do is to cause your body to respond to an infection more quickly and more effectively. If you're lucky, the response comes so quickly that you never knew you were infected. So that aside, what did you mean exactly? When you said > Much protection against infection or against hospitalization? Did you mean to say: "Much protection against asymptomatic spread or against hospitalization?" Or maybe you meant to say something else?
        xapata 5y ago
        No, I meant symptomatic spread. I don't care much about getting sick. I worry about winding up in the hospital. As far as I know, the 3rd dose of Moderna and Pfizer are both effective at keeping me out of the hospital. I don't know the exact rates, but I've met plenty of people who had mild illness recently.
  - viraptor 5y ago
    "Vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic diseases". I got the data from the UK's "Technical briefing: Update on hospitalisation and vaccine effectiveness for Omicron VOC-21NOV-01 (B.1.1.529) 31 December 2021" https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-sars-cov-2-variants-technical-briefings https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-...

viraptor 5y ago

With omicron 2 doses still don't give you much protection. (25% effective) One booster is good, but still ~55% effective. (UK stats) Then you get immunocompromised people and older population where breakthrough infections are still very dangerous. I don't know if reducing the contract would change anything anymore. But in terms of spread via kids, don't think of just the working / school / bar-going population.

xapata 5y ago
Much protection against infection or against hospitalization?
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- CogitoCogito 5y ago
  No vaccines protect against infection. Maybe you mean does it protect against asymptomatic infection? Or asymptomatic transmission? (I don't know how effective it is for either.)
  - xapata 5y ago
    The polio vaccine doesn't protect against polio infection? I guess I'm not familiar with the technical meaning of infection.
    - CogitoCogito 5y ago
      I think the problem is that you imagine "infection" to mean "disease" or something similar. Infection means that the pathogen gets in your body and starts to grow. There is no vaccine that can prevent that. What a vaccine can do is to cause your body to respond to an infection more quickly and more effectively. If you're lucky, the response comes so quickly that you never knew you were infected. So that aside, what did you mean exactly? When you said > Much protection against infection or against hospitalization? Did you mean to say: "Much protection against asymptomatic spread or against hospitalization?" Or maybe you meant to say something else?
      - xapata 5y ago
        No, I meant symptomatic spread. I don't care much about getting sick. I worry about winding up in the hospital. As far as I know, the 3rd dose of Moderna and Pfizer are both effective at keeping me out of the hospital. I don't know the exact rates, but I've met plenty of people who had mild illness recently.
- viraptor 5y ago
  "Vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic diseases". I got the data from the UK's "Technical briefing: Update on hospitalisation and vaccine effectiveness for Omicron VOC-21NOV-01 (B.1.1.529) 31 December 2021" https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-sars-cov-2-variants-technical-briefings https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-...