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What country? Are we taking Iran or Canada?

by ARandomerDude 5y ago

pshirshov 5y ago
From Poland to Ireland.
- csomar 5y ago
  Ireland... that's quite similar to "Iranland". That must be the problem.
  - pshirshov 5y ago
    Not funny when you lose your music and software worth several hundred euros.
    - aaaaaaaaaaab 5y ago
      >when you lose your It was never yours. Buy music from Bandcamp and save it on your hard drive. That is yours.
      - gruez 5y ago
        >Buy music from Bandcamp and save it on your hard drive. That is yours but itunes music is DRM-free as well?
        dwighttk 5y ago
        You would only lose access to music not saved in an accessible location (and purchased after DRM was removed unless you took the steps to get drm free tracks[1]) and also software bought on the App Store. [1]funny story: I have one (or more) tracks in my music library that a friend shared with me almost 20 years ago when we were in college and he added me as one of the 5 computers that could play the tracks. Every time I’ve moved my library to a new computer it asks me to log into that account to approve that track, but it won’t give me a list of the tracks so I can delete it/them. It isn’t enough of an annoyance that I’ve tried too hard to find them.
      - daneel_w 5y ago
        You can download a DRM-free copy of any audio track you bought in the iTunes Store. It's been like that for around 10 years.
      - diffeomorphism 5y ago
        Are you sure? Legally speaking you might be required to delete it then. https://xkcd.com/488/ https://xkcd.com/488/
    - kome 5y ago
      That will teach people not to "buy" stuff you don't really own. Piracy o streaming are better solution. DRM is ethically and technologically bankrupt.
      - daneel_w 5y ago
        With Apple you have since many years now (10 years or so?) been able to download an unencrypted DRM-free copy of every audio track you ever bought in the iTunes Store. It's clearly to no consolation for OP, but it's worth pointing this fact out nevertheless.
        minerva23 5y ago
        To balance out your balance, with Apple, they recently chose to put government spyware on your devices (until public outcry caused them to delay/reconsider).
    - throwhauser 5y ago
      > Not funny when you lose your music and software worth several hundred euros. Indeed. I never spent much money on Apple media or applications, but in the last few years I've spent nothing.
    - theplumber 5y ago
      It's part of the walled garden's feature set. Let's hope more of this happens and people start asking for their digital rights(i.e drm free media,hardware etc)
    - deleted 5y ago
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  - behnamoh 5y ago
    What's wrong with Iran? Last I checked it's a beautiful country with nice and educated people.
    - olalonde 5y ago
      Apple is forbidden from doing business in Iran. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_Iran
      - behnamoh 5y ago
        But its devices can still be used anywhere in the world, even if the company doesn't do business in certain places.
    - hutzlibu 5y ago
      And with a theocratic government, that wants to wipe out another country and whose former president denied the holocaust ever happened. All the iranians I met in person, were lovely people, though .
      - pwinnski 5y ago
        As an American, I think it unwise to label an entire country and people on the basis of how theocratic their government is, their military ambitions, or the personal views of former presidents. Please.
        otterley 5y ago
        America has a lot of religious nuts who influence politics, but it is not a theocracy. We do not have a “supreme leader” who is both head of the Government (if not formally, but practically) and head of the official state religion. Our Constitution provides for religious freedom but otherwise says nothing about religion.
      - gitgrump 5y ago
        I meeeaan, "wants to wipe out another country" and "former president denied the Holocaust ever happened" can apply to a surprising number of places.
  - interestica 5y ago
    No no. A land of ire. Seems apt here.
- softwarebeware 5y ago
  Funny story, I once knew a guy who had a very common Irish name (both first and last). He was from California though (born and raised). When it came time to renew his passport, the government mistook him for someone involved in the IRA. He actually had to ship thirty pounds of documentation including as mundane of items as report cards, school id’s, all job paystubs, etc. — basically document his entire life as a US citizen before he finally received approval.
  - rvba 5y ago
    Gerry Adams? Ah, you wrote about someone involved with the IRA, so probably some other name.
- philwelch 5y ago
  It sounds like your friend might be the notorious serial traffic offender known as Prawo Jazdy! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prawo_Jazdy_(alleged_criminal) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prawo_Jazdy_(alleged_crimina...
JKCalhoun 5y ago
> Are we taking Iran or Canada? What is this? Some kind of Axis of Sanity?
- lillecarl 5y ago
  I think the question is relevant, certain countries are under sanctions and could make a lot of things complex for those operating services.
softwarebeware 5y ago
um, I live in Seattle and I can tell you that even from here there’s constant new news of organized crime, cartels, and terrorist organizations operating out of Canada.
- mthoms 5y ago
  Organized crime, sure. But what terrorist organizations are you referring to? I live in Vancouver and have not heard of anything notable in this regard.
  - softwarebeware 5y ago
    Yeah I agree that’s definitely less frequent. You can check here for listed terrorist entities with active presence in Canada: https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/ntnl-scrt/cntr-trrrsm/lstd-ntts/crrnt-lstd-ntts-en.aspx https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/ntnl-scrt/cntr-trrrsm/lst...
    - mthoms 5y ago
      Wait, the claim you made was "constant" news of terrorist organizations operating out of Canada. The list you cited was the Canadian governments' list of global entities that are designated as terrorist organizations and NOT those with an "active presence". (Tip: The US list is almost, if not entirely, identical). Can you cite any "news" you've heard in Seattle about terrorist organizations operating out of Canada?

What country? Are we taking Iran or Canada?

pshirshov 5y ago

From Poland to Ireland.

csomar 5y ago
Ireland... that's quite similar to "Iranland". That must be the problem.
- pshirshov 5y ago
  Not funny when you lose your music and software worth several hundred euros.
  - aaaaaaaaaaab 5y ago
    >when you lose your It was never yours. Buy music from Bandcamp and save it on your hard drive. That is yours.
    - gruez 5y ago
      >Buy music from Bandcamp and save it on your hard drive. That is yours but itunes music is DRM-free as well?
      - dwighttk 5y ago
        You would only lose access to music not saved in an accessible location (and purchased after DRM was removed unless you took the steps to get drm free tracks[1]) and also software bought on the App Store. [1]funny story: I have one (or more) tracks in my music library that a friend shared with me almost 20 years ago when we were in college and he added me as one of the 5 computers that could play the tracks. Every time I’ve moved my library to a new computer it asks me to log into that account to approve that track, but it won’t give me a list of the tracks so I can delete it/them. It isn’t enough of an annoyance that I’ve tried too hard to find them.
    - daneel_w 5y ago
      You can download a DRM-free copy of any audio track you bought in the iTunes Store. It's been like that for around 10 years.
    - diffeomorphism 5y ago
      Are you sure? Legally speaking you might be required to delete it then. https://xkcd.com/488/ https://xkcd.com/488/
  - kome 5y ago
    That will teach people not to "buy" stuff you don't really own. Piracy o streaming are better solution. DRM is ethically and technologically bankrupt.
    - daneel_w 5y ago
      With Apple you have since many years now (10 years or so?) been able to download an unencrypted DRM-free copy of every audio track you ever bought in the iTunes Store. It's clearly to no consolation for OP, but it's worth pointing this fact out nevertheless.
      - minerva23 5y ago
        To balance out your balance, with Apple, they recently chose to put government spyware on your devices (until public outcry caused them to delay/reconsider).
  - throwhauser 5y ago
    > Not funny when you lose your music and software worth several hundred euros. Indeed. I never spent much money on Apple media or applications, but in the last few years I've spent nothing.
  - theplumber 5y ago
    It's part of the walled garden's feature set. Let's hope more of this happens and people start asking for their digital rights(i.e drm free media,hardware etc)
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
- behnamoh 5y ago
  What's wrong with Iran? Last I checked it's a beautiful country with nice and educated people.
  - olalonde 5y ago
    Apple is forbidden from doing business in Iran. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_Iran
    - behnamoh 5y ago
      But its devices can still be used anywhere in the world, even if the company doesn't do business in certain places.
  - hutzlibu 5y ago
    And with a theocratic government, that wants to wipe out another country and whose former president denied the holocaust ever happened. All the iranians I met in person, were lovely people, though .
    - pwinnski 5y ago
      As an American, I think it unwise to label an entire country and people on the basis of how theocratic their government is, their military ambitions, or the personal views of former presidents. Please.
      - otterley 5y ago
        America has a lot of religious nuts who influence politics, but it is not a theocracy. We do not have a “supreme leader” who is both head of the Government (if not formally, but practically) and head of the official state religion. Our Constitution provides for religious freedom but otherwise says nothing about religion.
    - gitgrump 5y ago
      I meeeaan, "wants to wipe out another country" and "former president denied the Holocaust ever happened" can apply to a surprising number of places.
- interestica 5y ago
  No no. A land of ire. Seems apt here.
softwarebeware 5y ago
Funny story, I once knew a guy who had a very common Irish name (both first and last). He was from California though (born and raised). When it came time to renew his passport, the government mistook him for someone involved in the IRA. He actually had to ship thirty pounds of documentation including as mundane of items as report cards, school id’s, all job paystubs, etc. — basically document his entire life as a US citizen before he finally received approval.
- rvba 5y ago
  Gerry Adams? Ah, you wrote about someone involved with the IRA, so probably some other name.
philwelch 5y ago
It sounds like your friend might be the notorious serial traffic offender known as Prawo Jazdy! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prawo_Jazdy_(alleged_criminal) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prawo_Jazdy_(alleged_crimina...

JKCalhoun 5y ago

> Are we taking Iran or Canada? What is this? Some kind of Axis of Sanity?

lillecarl 5y ago
I think the question is relevant, certain countries are under sanctions and could make a lot of things complex for those operating services.

softwarebeware 5y ago

um, I live in Seattle and I can tell you that even from here there’s constant new news of organized crime, cartels, and terrorist organizations operating out of Canada.

mthoms 5y ago
Organized crime, sure. But what terrorist organizations are you referring to? I live in Vancouver and have not heard of anything notable in this regard.
- softwarebeware 5y ago
  Yeah I agree that’s definitely less frequent. You can check here for listed terrorist entities with active presence in Canada: https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/ntnl-scrt/cntr-trrrsm/lstd-ntts/crrnt-lstd-ntts-en.aspx https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/ntnl-scrt/cntr-trrrsm/lst...
  - mthoms 5y ago
    Wait, the claim you made was "constant" news of terrorist organizations operating out of Canada. The list you cited was the Canadian governments' list of global entities that are designated as terrorist organizations and NOT those with an "active presence". (Tip: The US list is almost, if not entirely, identical). Can you cite any "news" you've heard in Seattle about terrorist organizations operating out of Canada?