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I really like the concept and wish it was reality. Sadly, while the project even seems attractive to states, I think they killed it before it could become real

I really like the concept and wish it was reality. Sadly, while the project even seems attractive to states, I think they killed it before it could become reality by choosing a GPL licence. Probably nobody will touch it... PS: it's not like I have a problem with it, but mostly it's reality PPS: move to GitHub or alternatives, please - accessibility right now doesn't seem great

netizen-936824 5y ago
>I really like the concept and wish it was reality. I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Does the project not actually exist? It seems like it is real and has been under development for some years now....
- gefhfffh 5y ago
  It exists as a demo (and on a student campus for food), but it's not like you can get Taler from your bank and pay at the supermarket or a random shop in the internet
  - netizen-936824 5y ago
    That just sounds like a lack of real world implementation to me. Assuming it works for what the school needs, it can probably be adapted to other systems I would think. Just like if you or I wrote a project, is it not real until someone else implements it? Banks are notoriously slow on the uptake of tech projects, it might take some internal pushing from people who care to adopt a FOSS solution. Most business I've run into prefer proprietary projects because its easier to just throw money at something, although they could throw money at their internal team to implement FOSS. Unsure if it would be more expensive in this case, I'm not very familiar with fintech
    - captn3m0 5y ago
      It’s not just technical, but regulatory challenges that come with issuing a new kind of prepaid-instrument (it is akin to a Casino Chip that can be accepted by _any person with a bank account_). Central Banks are not known for speedily approving such proposals.
summm 5y ago
I feel you. Just like the GPL killed Linux. That said, the GPL only covers the software, not the protocol. So banks are free to just re-implement that protocol, it's not that complicated. This should be peanuts for any larger bank. Or maybe pay money to Taler Systems to re-license the software under a commercial license?
- gefhfffh 5y ago
  I don't know if they're open to that, since they didn't dual license it or use something like https://polyformproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/PolyForm-Noncommercial-1.0.0.txt https://polyformproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/PolyF... , or if still realistically possible. I hope it works out in the end anyways ...

netizen-936824 5y ago

>I really like the concept and wish it was reality. I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Does the project not actually exist? It seems like it is real and has been under development for some years now....

gefhfffh 5y ago
It exists as a demo (and on a student campus for food), but it's not like you can get Taler from your bank and pay at the supermarket or a random shop in the internet
- netizen-936824 5y ago
  That just sounds like a lack of real world implementation to me. Assuming it works for what the school needs, it can probably be adapted to other systems I would think. Just like if you or I wrote a project, is it not real until someone else implements it? Banks are notoriously slow on the uptake of tech projects, it might take some internal pushing from people who care to adopt a FOSS solution. Most business I've run into prefer proprietary projects because its easier to just throw money at something, although they could throw money at their internal team to implement FOSS. Unsure if it would be more expensive in this case, I'm not very familiar with fintech
  - captn3m0 5y ago
    It’s not just technical, but regulatory challenges that come with issuing a new kind of prepaid-instrument (it is akin to a Casino Chip that can be accepted by _any person with a bank account_). Central Banks are not known for speedily approving such proposals.

summm 5y ago

I feel you. Just like the GPL killed Linux. That said, the GPL only covers the software, not the protocol. So banks are free to just re-implement that protocol, it's not that complicated. This should be peanuts for any larger bank. Or maybe pay money to Taler Systems to re-license the software under a commercial license?

gefhfffh 5y ago
I don't know if they're open to that, since they didn't dual license it or use something like https://polyformproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/PolyForm-Noncommercial-1.0.0.txt https://polyformproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/PolyF... , or if still realistically possible. I hope it works out in the end anyways ...