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The natural numbers don't start with 1... The convention is inconsistent, but for many mathematicians, especially including logicians, they start with 0. It is

The natural numbers don't start with 1... The convention is inconsistent, but for many mathematicians, especially including logicians, they start with 0. It is best not to use the term "natural numbers" at all. By the way, your point about polynomials works in favour of the convention that 0 is a natural number.

Koshkin 5y ago
Try thinking of being the zeroth person in a line. Or your child being in the zeroth year of her life.
- ogogmad 5y ago
  How many lions are in my room at the moment? Hopefully zero.
  - Koshkin 5y ago
    But zero sheep is not a flock. (Besides, there's uncountably many things you have zero of in you room.)
    - ogogmad 5y ago
      > But zero sheep is not a flock. So one isn't a natural number? > (Besides, there's uncountably many things you have zero of in you room.) ;) Exactly. Zero is the most natural number.
      - Koshkin 5y ago
        So, on your scale, which is the first natural number?