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There is no issue to sell a used phone as long as the original owner removes ALL Google account BEFORE doing the factory reset. In that case you won't be asked

by Oxodao 5y ago

There is no issue to sell a used phone as long as the original owner removes ALL Google account BEFORE doing the factory reset. In that case you won't be asked to log in. Yet this is still safe as you need your unlock code to remove an account, even if the phone is already unlocked

zinekeller 5y ago
The problem stems from users just pressing the "reset" button without removing their accounts first. I think that Microsoft's approach here (Refresh your PC without affecting your files, Remove everything and reinstall Windows) is better, because it tells you what exactly will happen. On "Remove everything and reinstall Windows", it'll ask you if you're simply resetting it for yourself or if you're selling or disposing that computer (the difference here for almost all computers is a zeroing disk wipe).
- adabaed 5y ago
  Blame the designer not the user.
- aspenmayer 5y ago
  This is resolved on iOS by turning off Find My before doing factory reset. On macOS devices, you need to remove it from your device list on iCloud.com after factory reset, as well as turning off Find My, if applicable.
aspenmayer 5y ago
> Yet this is still safe as you need your unlock code to remove an account, even if the phone is already unlocked The word “unlocked” in the context of phones usually implies the lack of a carrier lock on the device as originally manufactured and sold. It is not precisely correct to refer to phones originally locked to a carrier as unlocked when offering them for sale without disclosing any original carrier lock, as there are differences in supported frequency bands depending on the jurisdiction the phone was sold in that may make it incompatible with some carriers, whereas “factory unlocked” phones of the same model are usually world band phones and support all common carrier frequencies. To recap: it’s fine to refer to phones which have had an unlock code applied to them as unlocked. To differentiate phones which came unlocked when originally manufactured, this second group of phones is referred to as “factory unlocked.” Sorry to be pendantic, and this isn’t directed at OP. Most of this is inside baseball and is only important when buying or selling phones secondhand, in order to make sure the new owner is able to use their phone on a different carrier than the prior owner. - All of the above is separate to anti-theft locks which are supported by Android and iOS devices, which must be removed before sale in order for the new owner to associate the device with their own personal Google or Apple account, respectively.
- Oxodao 5y ago
  My bad! This is indeed what I meant, not native english speaker, in french we use the same term for both meanings
  - aspenmayer 5y ago
    We do too in native English, but “factory unlocked” has a more precise meaning, in that it reflects a potential change in the hardware. SIM locks and/or carrier locks refer to this property. The Android and Google locks are independent of the above types of locks, and are account bound like the above locks, but instead of being linked to your phone service account, they are linked to your Google or Apple accounts. You could have one and not the other, or neither, or both. However, no end user benefits from a carrier or SIM locked phone. Mobile device OS-level blocks are important for security, however, and are under the control of the legitimate user and may be turned off anytime. To disable the SIM or carrier locks, you need the unlock code you originally mentioned.
LoneWolf 5y ago
what? I did factory resets on multiple android phones and EVERYTHING gets wiped even Google accounts, does not ask for anything just setup like new.
- Oxodao 5y ago
  This used to be the case, I'm not sure since when nor if that's how it works on every android phone as every manufacturer customize its own OS. I'm pretty sure this has happened to me on my OnePlus 3T and it definitly happened on my OnePlus 6. This is a bit problematic as my Google account has a generated password in my password manager, if I forget to remove it before doing a factory reset, I usually change my password for a simpler one until I have bitwarden installed back on the phone after the reset

by Oxodao 5y ago

zinekeller 5y ago

The problem stems from users just pressing the "reset" button without removing their accounts first. I think that Microsoft's approach here (Refresh your PC without affecting your files, Remove everything and reinstall Windows) is better, because it tells you what exactly will happen. On "Remove everything and reinstall Windows", it'll ask you if you're simply resetting it for yourself or if you're selling or disposing that computer (the difference here for almost all computers is a zeroing disk wipe).

adabaed 5y ago
Blame the designer not the user.
aspenmayer 5y ago
This is resolved on iOS by turning off Find My before doing factory reset. On macOS devices, you need to remove it from your device list on iCloud.com after factory reset, as well as turning off Find My, if applicable.

aspenmayer 5y ago

> Yet this is still safe as you need your unlock code to remove an account, even if the phone is already unlocked The word “unlocked” in the context of phones usually implies the lack of a carrier lock on the device as originally manufactured and sold. It is not precisely correct to refer to phones originally locked to a carrier as unlocked when offering them for sale without disclosing any original carrier lock, as there are differences in supported frequency bands depending on the jurisdiction the phone was sold in that may make it incompatible with some carriers, whereas “factory unlocked” phones of the same model are usually world band phones and support all common carrier frequencies. To recap: it’s fine to refer to phones which have had an unlock code applied to them as unlocked. To differentiate phones which came unlocked when originally manufactured, this second group of phones is referred to as “factory unlocked.” Sorry to be pendantic, and this isn’t directed at OP. Most of this is inside baseball and is only important when buying or selling phones secondhand, in order to make sure the new owner is able to use their phone on a different carrier than the prior owner. - All of the above is separate to anti-theft locks which are supported by Android and iOS devices, which must be removed before sale in order for the new owner to associate the device with their own personal Google or Apple account, respectively.

Oxodao 5y ago
My bad! This is indeed what I meant, not native english speaker, in french we use the same term for both meanings
- aspenmayer 5y ago
  We do too in native English, but “factory unlocked” has a more precise meaning, in that it reflects a potential change in the hardware. SIM locks and/or carrier locks refer to this property. The Android and Google locks are independent of the above types of locks, and are account bound like the above locks, but instead of being linked to your phone service account, they are linked to your Google or Apple accounts. You could have one and not the other, or neither, or both. However, no end user benefits from a carrier or SIM locked phone. Mobile device OS-level blocks are important for security, however, and are under the control of the legitimate user and may be turned off anytime. To disable the SIM or carrier locks, you need the unlock code you originally mentioned.

LoneWolf 5y ago

what? I did factory resets on multiple android phones and EVERYTHING gets wiped even Google accounts, does not ask for anything just setup like new.

Oxodao 5y ago
This used to be the case, I'm not sure since when nor if that's how it works on every android phone as every manufacturer customize its own OS. I'm pretty sure this has happened to me on my OnePlus 3T and it definitly happened on my OnePlus 6. This is a bit problematic as my Google account has a generated password in my password manager, if I forget to remove it before doing a factory reset, I usually change my password for a simpler one until I have bitwarden installed back on the phone after the reset