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> Who wants to give away their own stuff or sacrifice their own children's chance at life so that some random person can live? This is a standard, right wing,

> Who wants to give away their own stuff or sacrifice their own children's chance at life so that some random person can live? This is a standard, right wing, racist trope that has no connection with reality - hinging on zero sum subterfuge. Adding working age immigrants to an economy increases the size of the pie for everyone. If anyone is negatively affecting the economy it is the retired person who is drawing on health services. It is doubly absurd to make such a statement in the midst of a Brexit driven down spiral of the British economy. Btw, significant percentage of health care workers in western countries are immigrants, as the previous generation has suppressed their own fertility creating an unstable economic situation that can only be solved through immigration. It's the same generation that keeps whinging about immigrants on whom they are totally dependent upon for health care. The reality is in fact the opposite. The parents want to sacrifice their own children's chance at life so that they can block a random person's immigration to feed their own tribal instincts. > e.g. the US, you see people advocating for programs that given housing, education, and other financial aid ti immigrants but do nothing for the poor we already have here. Sure buddy.

blub 5y ago
Not sure what highly qualified immigrants the US or your country are getting, but in Western/Northern Europe there's a significant influx of uneducated and poorly qualified immigrants which cost national governments tens of billions of EUR to house, feed and take care of and have almost zero hope of producing anything for the local economy during their lifetime, because they will be either stuck in dead-end jobs or live on government support. And all these countries already have ghettos from the previous generations of immigrants which were not integrated in the host society. Few would complain if doctors, engineers and software developers would be coming in droves, begging to learn the local language and contribute to the economy.
- random314 5y ago
  Is this is a cleaned up version of "They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." UK happily got rid of its uneducated, unwanted east European deplorable immigrants. Funny how that is going. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/rzoidg/farmers_to_have_18_billion_prebrexit_cash_removed/ https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/rzoidg/f... Immigrants primarily show up looking for work. It helps the economy of the host country, whether they are blue collar or white collar. If there is no employment to be found, they won't come. > Few would complain if doctors, engineers and software developers would be coming in droves, begging to learn the local language and contribute to the economy. They would complain about it too. However, you let your racism mask slip when you use phrases like " begging to learn the local language". You want immigrants to be groveling and begging to seek your approval for being allowed in to a place. You should realize that you don't actually have any power to grant or revoke approvals. You can build fantasy worlds in your head, but don't confuse it with reality. And I don't have to argue with your fact free and citation free statement that immigrants in "dead end" jobs don't contribute to the economy, because there seems to be a lack of basic understanding of what an economy is and how it works.

blub 5y ago

Not sure what highly qualified immigrants the US or your country are getting, but in Western/Northern Europe there's a significant influx of uneducated and poorly qualified immigrants which cost national governments tens of billions of EUR to house, feed and take care of and have almost zero hope of producing anything for the local economy during their lifetime, because they will be either stuck in dead-end jobs or live on government support. And all these countries already have ghettos from the previous generations of immigrants which were not integrated in the host society. Few would complain if doctors, engineers and software developers would be coming in droves, begging to learn the local language and contribute to the economy.

random314 5y ago
Is this is a cleaned up version of "They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." UK happily got rid of its uneducated, unwanted east European deplorable immigrants. Funny how that is going. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/rzoidg/farmers_to_have_18_billion_prebrexit_cash_removed/ https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/rzoidg/f... Immigrants primarily show up looking for work. It helps the economy of the host country, whether they are blue collar or white collar. If there is no employment to be found, they won't come. > Few would complain if doctors, engineers and software developers would be coming in droves, begging to learn the local language and contribute to the economy. They would complain about it too. However, you let your racism mask slip when you use phrases like " begging to learn the local language". You want immigrants to be groveling and begging to seek your approval for being allowed in to a place. You should realize that you don't actually have any power to grant or revoke approvals. You can build fantasy worlds in your head, but don't confuse it with reality. And I don't have to argue with your fact free and citation free statement that immigrants in "dead end" jobs don't contribute to the economy, because there seems to be a lack of basic understanding of what an economy is and how it works.