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jambo is not Maciej Cegłowski, (username "idlewords") who runs pinboard. So asking him for technical details won't be very helpful. Incidentally, Maciej is ban

jambo is not Maciej Cegłowski, (username "idlewords") who runs pinboard. So asking him for technical details won't be very helpful. Incidentally, Maciej is banned from HN,[1] due to not being being nice enough to someone. 1: https://twitter.com/#!/pinboard/status/111332316458135553 https://twitter.com/#!/pinboard/status/111332316458135553

jambo 15y ago
Thanks. I didn't know idlewords was banned & was assuming he'd be by to answer.
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tptacek 15y ago
Maciej is not currently banned from HN (he was, briefly, after an impolitic comment about a post, but Paul Graham unbanned him within moments of me questioning the ban). Maciej seems pretty annoyed by what happened, and I don't blame him. But there you go. Shit happens! He's basically one of the friendliest people I've met on the Internet, though, so if you want to help him out you can just ping him on Twitter.
- staunch 15y ago
  You use the word "friendliest" to describe a guy who three comments ago called someone a "douchebag" because his post was too long? He's got a history of similar behavior. He really is a bit of a troll. He certainly doesn't follow HN guideline of "Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation.". My guess is PG only unbanned him so he wouldn't face the criticism of seeming to censor one of his critics.
  - joshu 15y ago
    How do you know he wouldn't say that in person?
    - staunch 15y ago
      Experience. Every Internet Tough Guy I've met is normal/civil in person. Besides, I left out the "Be civil" part of that guideline. Calling someone a "douchebag" for writing a long-winded post wouldn't fit most people's definition of civility.
      - tptacek 15y ago
        He didn't call Sebastian a douchebag for writing a long post. He called Sebastian prolix for writing a long post. He called Sebastian a douchebag for writing that long post. If we're going to hellban people for writing individual uncivil posts, that's a problem. But I don't think that's what's going to happen. You should stop calling people "Internet Tough Guys". You have literally no idea who you're talking about. Comments like yours are Part Of The Problem. Maybe you should re-evaluate the notion of starting whole threads on how much you dislike one particular person.
        staunch 15y ago
        Comments like his "douchebag" comment are Part Of The Problem and that's why he was banned. Your description of his comment as merely "impolitic" is only slightly more ridiculous than you referring to him as the "friendliest" guy you know. I probably shouldn't have pointed it out, but I did. Regardless, I don't have any vendetta against him or care strongly about him being on the site or not. I realize he's a smart guy who just has a bit of an Uncov streak in him. No big deal.
        huhtenberg 15y ago
        For what it's worth I was a proud recipient of a 50+ score reply that started with "Fuck you!". Maciej's "douchebag" is clearly nothing in comparison and it hardly warranted the permaban.
        statictype 15y ago
        He didn't 'start whole threads' on how much he dislikes a particular person. He merely pointed out that calling someone a douchebag doesn't fit the guidelines for this site. I like reading idlewords and think he's a good/interesting writer and am glad he wasn't permanently banned. But your reply here defending his words seems a little emotional and knee-jerk don't you think?
  - tptacek 15y ago
    I read Maciej's comments compulsively, all of them, and your summary does not square with my experience. At all. I thought his comment about Sebastian's post was impolitic, but I chose that word carefully. I don't care to psychoanalyze 'pg or how he chooses to run the site. He's a busy guy and is more than entitled to make moderation decisions that I disagree with. I don't understand why you felt the need to write your comment at all. What good did it serve?
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- nikcub 15y ago
  The comment in question, if anybody is interested: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2946828 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2946828

jambo 15y ago

Thanks. I didn't know idlewords was banned & was assuming he'd be by to answer.

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tptacek 15y ago

Maciej is not currently banned from HN (he was, briefly, after an impolitic comment about a post, but Paul Graham unbanned him within moments of me questioning the ban). Maciej seems pretty annoyed by what happened, and I don't blame him. But there you go. Shit happens! He's basically one of the friendliest people I've met on the Internet, though, so if you want to help him out you can just ping him on Twitter.

staunch 15y ago
You use the word "friendliest" to describe a guy who three comments ago called someone a "douchebag" because his post was too long? He's got a history of similar behavior. He really is a bit of a troll. He certainly doesn't follow HN guideline of "Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation.". My guess is PG only unbanned him so he wouldn't face the criticism of seeming to censor one of his critics.
- joshu 15y ago
  How do you know he wouldn't say that in person?
  - staunch 15y ago
    Experience. Every Internet Tough Guy I've met is normal/civil in person. Besides, I left out the "Be civil" part of that guideline. Calling someone a "douchebag" for writing a long-winded post wouldn't fit most people's definition of civility.
    - tptacek 15y ago
      He didn't call Sebastian a douchebag for writing a long post. He called Sebastian prolix for writing a long post. He called Sebastian a douchebag for writing that long post. If we're going to hellban people for writing individual uncivil posts, that's a problem. But I don't think that's what's going to happen. You should stop calling people "Internet Tough Guys". You have literally no idea who you're talking about. Comments like yours are Part Of The Problem. Maybe you should re-evaluate the notion of starting whole threads on how much you dislike one particular person.
      - staunch 15y ago
        Comments like his "douchebag" comment are Part Of The Problem and that's why he was banned. Your description of his comment as merely "impolitic" is only slightly more ridiculous than you referring to him as the "friendliest" guy you know. I probably shouldn't have pointed it out, but I did. Regardless, I don't have any vendetta against him or care strongly about him being on the site or not. I realize he's a smart guy who just has a bit of an Uncov streak in him. No big deal.
        huhtenberg 15y ago
        For what it's worth I was a proud recipient of a 50+ score reply that started with "Fuck you!". Maciej's "douchebag" is clearly nothing in comparison and it hardly warranted the permaban.
      - statictype 15y ago
        He didn't 'start whole threads' on how much he dislikes a particular person. He merely pointed out that calling someone a douchebag doesn't fit the guidelines for this site. I like reading idlewords and think he's a good/interesting writer and am glad he wasn't permanently banned. But your reply here defending his words seems a little emotional and knee-jerk don't you think?
- tptacek 15y ago
  I read Maciej's comments compulsively, all of them, and your summary does not square with my experience. At all. I thought his comment about Sebastian's post was impolitic, but I chose that word carefully. I don't care to psychoanalyze 'pg or how he chooses to run the site. He's a busy guy and is more than entitled to make moderation decisions that I disagree with. I don't understand why you felt the need to write your comment at all. What good did it serve?
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nikcub 15y ago
The comment in question, if anybody is interested: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2946828 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2946828