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What do we mean by this? I feel like it's a matter of OS improvement that will enable people to manage the software side of their own servers in as little (or

What do we mean by this? I feel like it's a matter of OS improvement that will enable people to manage the software side of their own servers in as little (or less) effort than managing cloud platforms or even VPCs. Ideally in a standard way. Why is learning Dropbox any easier than learning to copy a file to some other FTP serving software? The clouds are just making $$ to support you, though that often turns on it's head when they try to protect their interests. This conflict is why everything is shit right now IMO. If we are talking about the hardware... That might be a harder sell. But at the same time, I don't see why a company like Apple couldn't market a product like the HomePod as a personal server. It falls into the privacy narative and would be a way to make more device sales by supporting faster local services. Personally, I want my ISPs to give me a static IP more easily so I can more in this direction without worrying about weird dynamic DNS issues. IPv6 should have enabled this years ago, but it remains an issue.

gremlinsinc 5y ago
FTP is horrible. I'm glad as a web dev I haven't touched it in 8 years not since I worked for a hosting company in tech support.... git, or even rsync over ssh is way better... The upcoming generation..even the 'non-tech' people are tech-savvy, meaning most could probably get arch linux up and running at least via a distro or follow the docs, etc...where there parents would fail. the problem is they need to create something w/ a big enough value proposition but at the same time, easy enough for the masses to assimilate and understand it, and that serves enough utility to make it worth it. Something like an actual currency w/ basic income dividends (taxed $ goes to lowest 50% who have a minimum utilization score), and identity/fraud management, that has a built in tax and cap system so whales can't abuse it, and zero transaction fees, instead fees are taxes for hodling and lack of utilizing (less daily/weekly transactions lower your utilization score, so you might lose a couple coins/day until you start spending more). Fraud/ID comes in handy here so you can't just spend it to yourself or other accounts you own. 1:1 only. It'd need wide adoption to make utilization scores accessible, and maybe the price be pegged at or near a loaf of bread... and somehow make that global to be a universal price-setter to.. like say it's 1000 x currency for a loaf of bread in X country and 100y currency for a loaf of bread in y country, the c (coin) to y trade rate would be 100:1, and 1000:1 for x. I also feel that decentralization can be bad, full democratization is good, and DAO's would be good assuming every member gets equal voting rights (protect against whales), but sometimes esp. in the beginning centralized aspects like identity verifiers could go a long way towards building something resilient, and make tweaks/iterate changes faster than blockchain tech, and then when the tech is more sound in 10 years, move 100% decentralized... or only parts if that's what the org votes on....etc... When this expands to include metaverse it even becomes more important to have liquid democracy at its core, to ensure fairness and that companies don't control everything.
- baash05 5y ago
  Not a chance on that mate.. No way on Arch. Most of my neighbours can't change their wifi password. Heaps of the 20 somethings can't even run "ls" in a terminal.
  - gremlinsinc 5y ago
    come on, ls? that's easy. Anyone can do that... now try exiting VIM without a tutorial, or previous knowledge....
- BEEdwards 5y ago
  >The upcoming generation..even the 'non-tech' people are tech-savvy, meaning most could probably get arch linux up and running at least via a distro or follow the docs, etc...where there parents would fail. I don't know what members of the upcoming generation you're dealing with, but the ones I know are more computer illiterate than their parents. Their parents played games on dos and had to configure shit, the kids use their phone for everything and don't know how to use computers beyond a basic level.
  - gremlinsinc 5y ago
    My mom had some data entry/BASIc programming skills, today she can't even work wordpress or her cellphone... I grew up in the 80s, and can learn just about any tech... my 4 year old can work any electronic device like he was born with it.
- cableshaft 5y ago
  > Something like an actual currency w/ basic income dividends, and identity/fraud management Proof of Humanity is trying to do that with $UBI tokens and their method of proving who you are (basically a video of you with your wallet address saying a specific script, and putting up a collateral that could be lost if a court can provide evidence that you've signed up for it before). After you're signed up, you get one $UBI token every hour. $UBI tokens are currently worth $0.12 apiece, so it's roughly $1200 USD per year (at least for the moment, it's inherently very inflationary and seems to kind of rely on people like Vitalik Buterin, creator of Ethereum, to buy a bunch of tokens and burn them). It does have a complex onramp, though, and will be difficult to get non-tech-savvy people onto it without some help, most likely. We'll see if it continues to work. It's only been around since March 2021. It's an interesting idea, though. https://blog.kleros.io/introducing-ubi-universal-basic-income-for-humans/ https://blog.kleros.io/introducing-ubi-universal-basic-incom... https://www.proofofhumanity.id/ https://www.proofofhumanity.id/
walterbell 5y ago
> I want my ISPs to give me a static IP more easily so I can more in this direction without worrying about weird dynamic DNS issues. Tailscale appears to have solved this problem. There are related open-source projects.
- nixpulvis 5y ago
  I'm not sure I would call this "solved", since it's effectively just a replacement for the DNS servers in effect. What I want is no additional dependencies, esspecially on dynamic and slow to propagate services. Not to mention that my current dynamic DNS (through tplink) seems to be filtered by a lot of firewalls or something. ISPs providing a static IPv6 would be a simple solution that I should be able to create my own DNS records for convienence. No external VPN or otherwise.

gremlinsinc 5y ago

FTP is horrible. I'm glad as a web dev I haven't touched it in 8 years not since I worked for a hosting company in tech support.... git, or even rsync over ssh is way better... The upcoming generation..even the 'non-tech' people are tech-savvy, meaning most could probably get arch linux up and running at least via a distro or follow the docs, etc...where there parents would fail. the problem is they need to create something w/ a big enough value proposition but at the same time, easy enough for the masses to assimilate and understand it, and that serves enough utility to make it worth it. Something like an actual currency w/ basic income dividends (taxed $ goes to lowest 50% who have a minimum utilization score), and identity/fraud management, that has a built in tax and cap system so whales can't abuse it, and zero transaction fees, instead fees are taxes for hodling and lack of utilizing (less daily/weekly transactions lower your utilization score, so you might lose a couple coins/day until you start spending more). Fraud/ID comes in handy here so you can't just spend it to yourself or other accounts you own. 1:1 only. It'd need wide adoption to make utilization scores accessible, and maybe the price be pegged at or near a loaf of bread... and somehow make that global to be a universal price-setter to.. like say it's 1000 x currency for a loaf of bread in X country and 100y currency for a loaf of bread in y country, the c (coin) to y trade rate would be 100:1, and 1000:1 for x. I also feel that decentralization can be bad, full democratization is good, and DAO's would be good assuming every member gets equal voting rights (protect against whales), but sometimes esp. in the beginning centralized aspects like identity verifiers could go a long way towards building something resilient, and make tweaks/iterate changes faster than blockchain tech, and then when the tech is more sound in 10 years, move 100% decentralized... or only parts if that's what the org votes on....etc... When this expands to include metaverse it even becomes more important to have liquid democracy at its core, to ensure fairness and that companies don't control everything.

baash05 5y ago
Not a chance on that mate.. No way on Arch. Most of my neighbours can't change their wifi password. Heaps of the 20 somethings can't even run "ls" in a terminal.
- gremlinsinc 5y ago
  come on, ls? that's easy. Anyone can do that... now try exiting VIM without a tutorial, or previous knowledge....
BEEdwards 5y ago
>The upcoming generation..even the 'non-tech' people are tech-savvy, meaning most could probably get arch linux up and running at least via a distro or follow the docs, etc...where there parents would fail. I don't know what members of the upcoming generation you're dealing with, but the ones I know are more computer illiterate than their parents. Their parents played games on dos and had to configure shit, the kids use their phone for everything and don't know how to use computers beyond a basic level.
- gremlinsinc 5y ago
  My mom had some data entry/BASIc programming skills, today she can't even work wordpress or her cellphone... I grew up in the 80s, and can learn just about any tech... my 4 year old can work any electronic device like he was born with it.
cableshaft 5y ago
> Something like an actual currency w/ basic income dividends, and identity/fraud management Proof of Humanity is trying to do that with $UBI tokens and their method of proving who you are (basically a video of you with your wallet address saying a specific script, and putting up a collateral that could be lost if a court can provide evidence that you've signed up for it before). After you're signed up, you get one $UBI token every hour. $UBI tokens are currently worth $0.12 apiece, so it's roughly $1200 USD per year (at least for the moment, it's inherently very inflationary and seems to kind of rely on people like Vitalik Buterin, creator of Ethereum, to buy a bunch of tokens and burn them). It does have a complex onramp, though, and will be difficult to get non-tech-savvy people onto it without some help, most likely. We'll see if it continues to work. It's only been around since March 2021. It's an interesting idea, though. https://blog.kleros.io/introducing-ubi-universal-basic-income-for-humans/ https://blog.kleros.io/introducing-ubi-universal-basic-incom... https://www.proofofhumanity.id/ https://www.proofofhumanity.id/

walterbell 5y ago

> I want my ISPs to give me a static IP more easily so I can more in this direction without worrying about weird dynamic DNS issues. Tailscale appears to have solved this problem. There are related open-source projects.

nixpulvis 5y ago
I'm not sure I would call this "solved", since it's effectively just a replacement for the DNS servers in effect. What I want is no additional dependencies, esspecially on dynamic and slow to propagate services. Not to mention that my current dynamic DNS (through tplink) seems to be filtered by a lot of firewalls or something. ISPs providing a static IPv6 would be a simple solution that I should be able to create my own DNS records for convienence. No external VPN or otherwise.